• wombat [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    4 months ago

    I’m an Iranian immigrant. You really just need to remind her of the benevolence of the west. Austria, France, and the USA showed my family clemency and grace. Austria and France let them in as refugees, the US gave them citizenship. They’re successful business owners. I’m in law school and work for the CA legislature. This kind of success story does not exist outside of the west. Seriously, immigrants have no better choice than a western country, and that’s where my loyalty lies because of the huge chance and opportunity the west gave my family.

    agony-shivering

    • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      This kind of success story does not exist outside of the west

      This. This is the completely unquestioned propaganda nugget that holds the whole belief system together. Who told you that? Why would you believe that?

      Enormous, and economically successful countries like China, just have no immigrants, no refugees, and no social mobility? (not that the US has a ton, there’s a lot of unacknowledged luck involved in this story too)

      This story can absolutely happen in other countries. China even has a higher income mobility than the US. And if you look at the statistics, immigrants are actually disproportionately likely to be pulled down into the cycle of poverty that exists in the US, there’s an alternate universe not so different from our own where this dipshit’s parents had the resources to leave Iran, eventually landed in the US, and actually experienced downward mobility not upward, and rather than becoming exploiters themselves, hit a speed bump along the way like a serious injury or foreclosure or god knows what else and instead became destitute low-wage workers, who can’t afford to live in (most of anyhow) CA, send their kid to law school to do unpaid internships, etc.

      This person really has not considered that they aren’t the protagonist of real life and most people’s stories don’t look like theirs

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      “wow the west didn’t execute my family at the customs booth just because we come from a race of backwards communist islamist psychopaths. truly liberal democracy is the way, the truth, and the light.”

    • EllenKelly [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      Your friend needs a life. Join a gym with her, start a running club, get her a Switch, get her obsessed with something besides social media.

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