Yep. It is fine to call out the four Democrats and get them primaried. It isn’t fine to say all Democrats are bad because four Democrats out of the 200+ caucus voted for this.
If they fight against the party every time someone gives them the money to do it maybe they should fucking get kicked out of the DNC.
The Neoliberals who control the DNC are allowed to kick out whoever they want, but instead the party supports traitors and keeps them around. Becuae they are a convenient excuse to block real progress that idiots will always keep falling for.
Sorry but the Democratic party is totally impotent, and that is something you should be blaming the entire party for. That goes for the traitors, the leadership that tolerates them, and their peers who agree to prop up an impotent party.
If they fight against the party every time someone gives them the money to do it maybe they should fucking get kicked out of the DNC.
I’d agree with that in some cases. Not Manchin, though that ship has sailed.
the Democratic party is totally impotent
Yeah, they don’t have the House, they don’t have the Senate, they don’t have the White House, and they don’t have the Supreme Court. They have no real power right now. If you don’t give them the votes, they can’t do shit. That’s how a Democracy works. And when they do get some votes, it’s 50-52 seats in the Senate, with a couple of those being tenuous.
I agree Obama shouldn’t have been so naive as to think he could be bipartisan. I agree that they’ve had opportunities in the past that they’ve missed. But it sure doesn’t seem like the party as a whole is malicious. Who saw Sinema coming?
If you want to change the party, vote in primaries. Don’t tell people not to vote. Don’t tell people both parties are the same; they’re very much not.
The Democrats are impotent even when they had a supermajority
Also the only people allowed to have their names show up in the primary are hand picked by the party, and the DNC/RNC are private organizations who don’t legally have to hold a fair primary or even hold one.
Maybe if they didn’t capitulate to Trump while saying they’ve done all they can, I’d complain less.
If they were less like Schumer and more like Al Green I’d be happier. If they were less like Pelosi and more like Katie Porter I’d be signing their praises.
If they stopped voting to approve of Trump’s cabinet picks I’d be with them. If they didn’t vote with gutting Section 230 and a Herrtage Foundation written bill to harm queer youth, I’d be donating to them.
They don’t. They are with Trump because he doesn’t hurt them, they hurt the people who rally around next election cycle.
Want me to show you the proof I voted for Democrats and registered as them in my home state of California too?
Yep. It is fine to call out the four Democrats and get them primaried. It isn’t fine to say all Democrats are bad because four Democrats out of the 200+ caucus voted for this.
Now someone’s going to come in and helpfully explain rotating villain as though that’s the case every single time.
If they fight against the party every time someone gives them the money to do it maybe they should fucking get kicked out of the DNC.
The Neoliberals who control the DNC are allowed to kick out whoever they want, but instead the party supports traitors and keeps them around. Becuae they are a convenient excuse to block real progress that idiots will always keep falling for.
Sorry but the Democratic party is totally impotent, and that is something you should be blaming the entire party for. That goes for the traitors, the leadership that tolerates them, and their peers who agree to prop up an impotent party.
I’d agree with that in some cases. Not Manchin, though that ship has sailed.
Yeah, they don’t have the House, they don’t have the Senate, they don’t have the White House, and they don’t have the Supreme Court. They have no real power right now. If you don’t give them the votes, they can’t do shit. That’s how a Democracy works. And when they do get some votes, it’s 50-52 seats in the Senate, with a couple of those being tenuous.
I agree Obama shouldn’t have been so naive as to think he could be bipartisan. I agree that they’ve had opportunities in the past that they’ve missed. But it sure doesn’t seem like the party as a whole is malicious. Who saw Sinema coming?
If you want to change the party, vote in primaries. Don’t tell people not to vote. Don’t tell people both parties are the same; they’re very much not.
The Democrats are impotent even when they had a supermajority
Also the only people allowed to have their names show up in the primary are hand picked by the party, and the DNC/RNC are private organizations who don’t legally have to hold a fair primary or even hold one.
I guess you can go vote for Republicans then. Either implicitly or explicitly.
I vote everywhere I can.
I also am capable of processing reality and human history.
Fascists don’t get voted away.
(I hope it’s clear I’m in agreement with you, I am on your side, not the flat.world mod who thinks we should be reasonable to and platform bigotry.)
“if you want them to stop fascism, you’ll vote for fascists.”
Liberals sure are something. They are so pro-electorialism and anti-criticism yet can’t win elections.
“I wish Democrats were better candidates to defeat Republicans”
“Then go vote Republican.”
You’re not exactly sure how opinions and voting work, are you?
Are you? If you constantly shit talk one party, guess who’s going to get fewer votes?
Maybe if they didn’t capitulate to Trump while saying they’ve done all they can, I’d complain less.
If they were less like Schumer and more like Al Green I’d be happier. If they were less like Pelosi and more like Katie Porter I’d be signing their praises.
If they stopped voting to approve of Trump’s cabinet picks I’d be with them. If they didn’t vote with gutting Section 230 and a Herrtage Foundation written bill to harm queer youth, I’d be donating to them.
They don’t. They are with Trump because he doesn’t hurt them, they hurt the people who rally around next election cycle.
Want me to show you the proof I voted for Democrats and registered as them in my home state of California too?