Hi there everyone,

Let me start this by saying that this is an honest question. I figure nobody would be better suited to answer my question than a group laser-focused on the negatives of the technology.

I see these types of memes a lot and see statistics of gallons consumed in a lot of articles I read. What I don’t understand though is where the water goes that it can’t be reclaimed or naturally return from a gas to a liquid.

As a kid(long ago), I was taught of the cycle of rain and the conversion between gases and liquid. It’s my understanding that when a liquid is used to cool something, it also follows the same conversion process as it cools.

Could someone explain to me what’s going on in this process where the 264 billion gallons of water used in the meme do not return to a liquid state?

I would appreciate any insight into the process that seems to defy this cycle that I am missing. Like I said prior, my knowledge of this process ended in middle school science class so I’m confident that I’m missing something.

Thanks for your time!

  • bnn1
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    7 hours ago

    are you really telling me you shit out in a hole in the ground?

    no but if water was my concern i might have done just that.

    see, plumbing has a genuine utility and has probably saved more lives than you can imagine.

    no shit.

    but AI also has a genuine utility. and i’m not talking specialized algorithms that figure out protein folding or detect cancer. i mean regular chatbots.

    personally i benefit enormously from it. i coded and shipped more in the past year than in last 10 years. at work i write more code in a day than i used to in a week. it helped me diagnose an autoimmune disease that require treatment that shitty doctors in my backwater country failed to do. it explains things i don’t understand. it helps me overcome my prejudice and help me be a better person. it provides me a second opinion when i need it. – that’s just a short list of shit ai helps me with. and i’m not using even 10% of it. there’s text-to-speach, there’s speach-to-text, there’s image generation, video generation, audio generation – these have enourmous amount of use cases, and helps enormous amount of people. think an indie dev that can solo an entire game in weeks/months that was previously simply impossible. think producers that can ship entire series for pennies. think all those dreamers that dreamed but lacked ability to actually produce.

    honestly i don’t understand how you don’t see value in ai.

    that data centers are nearing the consumption of 1/4th

    that’s just 1% or even less of total US water consumption. agriculture sucks up 30% if i’m not mistaken. but okay agriculture is food. we really need food. but watering lawns. do we need our lawns green and pretty that bad to waste 1.5 trillion gallons of water on it? and that’s wasted, not total consumed. total consumed - multiply by 2.

    driving up prices for cpu, gpu, ram, memory based storage, disc based storage

    i can agree with that.

    while it walks people through committing mass murder AND undressing CHILDREN

    well ai is a tool. some tools are used by bad people to do bad things. but for every “this dude used ai to do bad stuff” article there’s a “this dude used ai to create a cancer vaccine for his dying dog” article

    usually someone asking for a summary of a fucking email

    do you know how useful that is? i mean maybe not for you, but for someone who have to handle hundreds of mails daily? but really that’s one real narrow real silly use case. more serious use cases: improved ai discovering new math, physics, chemistry, ai automating research - including usage of alphafold and all other scientific tools - to discover new drugs, new materials; ai optimizing business processes. and that’s not some ‘high-on-hope’ shit like it was just 2 years ago. it’s real. it’s happening right fucking now.

    THINK FOR A MOMENT: HOW IS ALL THE WATER THAT AI IS ALREADY FUCKING USING JUSTIFYING ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS?

    think for a moment: why are you wasting your time and effort and mental energy to fight technology? like what for? what do you want to achieve? i mean i understand what you want to achieve. but is it a realistic outcome? like how do you see this fight turning out for you? like tomorrow doland trump addresses the nation: “TODAY I’M STOPPING AI. NO MORE AI.” and xi goes like “特朗普停止了人工智能。我们也必须停止。”, and all businesses that are ears dip in ai shit all go like “yeah we ain’t need no ai, let’s undo all our automation workflows and rehire all those people we deleted”. you do you of course but i really, really hate wasting my effort on something that is very unlikely to happen.

    i wanna get a bit personal - why are you doing this? “stop ai” isn’t a goal. what do you want to achieve by stopping ai? like what improvements in your day-to-day life do you see if it’s stopped? your relationships? work? do these improvements justify personal tragedies of millions of people who depend on ai?

    and last question: have you actually used ai enough to confidently say it’s useless?

    fuck that was a long write. and will be a long read. hope you’ll read it 😅