• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    1 year ago

    The quote comes from a science fiction novel called ‘Beyond This Horizon.’ Written by Robert A. Heinlein.

    In the book, the government encourages particular couples to wed because of eugenics. A waiter spilling soup in a restaurant leads to a gunfight.

    Heinlein loved throwing crazy idea around.

    • richietozier4 [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s time for more “Deep Thoughts with Heinlein”. “Human society brainwashes us into accepting artificial limitations on our lives and our choices. This is wrong! Love should be free, and without limit. Unless it’s gay of course!” And that concludes our "Deep Thoughts with Heinlein.

      OSP’s review of Stranger in a Strange Land

      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        OMG! Someone wrote bad things about gay people in 1964. They must be horrible, horrible people!!

          • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            So, I shouldn’t read Sherlock Holmes, because he was in favor of the British Empire?

            How about Greeks and Romans who endorsed slavery?

            • AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              17
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Sorry, I should have explained. Here, we generally believe that it is ok to consume media made by shitty people but that you should place it into the correct context, which in Heinlein’s case is that he had bigoted and proto-fascist beliefs that influenced his work. We don’t think it’s necessary to defend someone (or their work) from fair criticism just because we enjoy consuming what they create.

              So yes, read Sherlock Holmes and Greek and Roman works, but do not think that Doyle’s western chauvinism doesn’t color his works and acknowledge that Plato or Cicero had crappy beliefs that should remain dead and buried with them, but still expand your mind by becoming aware of what they believed and why by reading them. Do not uncritically accept their beliefs and do not defend them or their beliefs just because they are talented or interesting or important.

              Criticism is not, in itself, censorship, and understanding requires context and critique.

    • Heinlein’s great because every one of his novels sounds like hack dystopia fiction, but then he’s like “yeah so pretty dope right? we should definitely do this, yeah? anyway please vote for me in the next school board election.”