• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    7 months ago

    Why would you think it’s a good political move to sign a bomb in such a controversial conflict. It boggles my mind who suggested that as a good idea.

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      7 months ago

      The conflict is only controversial to one party.

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        7 months ago

        Unlike Hollywood movies, things aren’t always black and white. It is quite possible that both sides are. Neither the Hamas nor Nethanyahu government are the good guys. Both sides try to exterminate the other side. Both sides also don’t mind killing innocent people in their way.

        It is a fucked up situation, and with recent developments it looks like it is turning into Israel’s Afghanistan. Biden was right warning Nethanyahu to not make the same mistake at US did after 9/11.

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          I responded to a comment asking why a national politician would choose a side in a conflict. My response was that her political party has picked a side to support by a wide majority.

          Republicans support Israel in this conflict almost universally. Haley’s support of Israel isn’t controversial in her own party.

          This wasn’t a statement on the morality of the conflict, but of the political support of the belligerents. Republicans support Israel.

          • takeda@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            Apologies, I misinterpreted the word “party” I thought it was a party in the conflict like Israel vs Gazans. And that Israel supporters don’t see it as controversial.

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              But Israelis DONT see it as controversial. Surveys of Israelis show 68% oppose humanitarian aid to Gaza. Intentional collective punishment and starvation are war crimes but they enjoy wide support in Israel; Netanyahu’s use of them is not considered objectionable by the mainstream and that’s not why the Israeli public is angry at him.

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                  7 months ago

                  That’s an impressive attempt at spinning.

                  This isn’t about Israel giving free food, but that Israel is intentionally BLOCKING all food shipments into the Gaza Strip AND blowing up water and food production facilities to intentionally create a famine. The Geneva Conventions require you to ensure the health and safety of civilians of land you control. Intentional and deliberate starvation of civilians is a WAR CRIME. I can’t spell it out any further for you.

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              That’s why I clarified.

              In the discussion of American politics, the Republican Party is very pro-Israel. The Republican Speaker of the House has gone as far to invite Netanyahu to address Congress as a show of friendship and support. The opposition to this invitation has mainly been from Democratic members.

              American voters could punish Biden for being complicit in genocide, but that punishment isn’t going to end the genocide.

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            7 months ago

            Pretty sure Republicans don’t as much support Israel as much as they just want to see Muslims bombed.