• chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    I know this is a meme, but I always considered Yoda as winning the fight, but without enough left to fight off any reinforcements, being thus unable to finish the job. Winning the battle but losing the war, etc.

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      5 months ago

      killing palpatine there would’ve been winning the war, even if yoda perished as a consequence

      i feel like yoda would’ve been “enlightened” enough to sacrifice himself for the sake of the galaxy if that was an option on the cards for him

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        5 months ago

        Wtf guys. Yoda literally found the way to cheat death and preserve knowledge. That is the entire plot twist I believed up until now?!

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          Qui-Gon did that, and taught it to Obi-Wan with ghost powers.

          I think? Or did Qui-Gon teach it to Yoda with Ghost Powers, and then Yoda just taught it normally…

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              5 months ago

              He tells Obi-Wan at the end of RotS and gives him homework.

              Honestly, even before the prequels I thought Alec Guinness looking up into the air every now and then in ANH was him listening to some spirit or the Force or so.

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                5 months ago

                I think it is actually canon now that he sometimes talked with Qui Gon. Before he leaves Tatooine to go save Leia, Qui Gon says something like “see you soon”, and Obi Wan goes “huh that was weird for him say”

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            5 months ago

            I believed that both have been teached by yoda.

            Plus, a Sith - someday kills his master. With yoda already knowing whos about to emerge… Ouh man, the predisney saga was awesomeee

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      5 months ago

      Winning the battle but losing the war, etc.

      That was a theme of the prequel series, so it certainly fits. But I feel like its too cheeky by half. Like Lucas felt as though he had something to prove by making all the original named Jedi nigh unstoppable juggernauts, right up until the end. Palpatine’s a badass dude. It’s okay for him to be a bit scarier than Dooku.

      Probably the most missed opportunity in that final movie was Anakin just stabbing Mace Windu in the back, rather than going full Darth Vader Ultra-Instinct mode and overpowering him with his Sith hate. That last fight with Obi-Wan really missed a beat, too. Imagine Anakin using his unleashed Force powers to summon a massive lava wave direct at Obi, only for him to dodge and Anakin to be peppered with globs of lava splatter in the backwash. Also would have been a great opportunity to end Padme, with Obi-Wan caught between rescuing the lava-splattered love-struck innocent Senator or his wicked apprentice, only to lose them both.

      So many quality dramatic scenes squandered. sigh