• LeninWalksTheWorld [any]@hexbear.net
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    Well Gorby sort of had a plan, but it was a terribly naive one. He really thought the liberals would be cool with him being a social democrat, but nope, step aside loser. All or nothing.

    For Yeltsin and his cronies, the lack of planning was part of the benefit, they didn’t want any of the former bureaucrats or factory directors to be part of the process at all. They just gave every citizen worthless “privatization vouchers” that would entitle you to shares in the new private enterprises but they immediately lost all value because of the economic disaster they caused. Oh and they were unlimitedly transferable, so 90% of people just sold them for cash so they could keep eating. Those who were already rich or had political connections to the new government bought them all up and volia- nearly instantaneous economic oligarchy. All the achievements of October, swept away :lenin-rage:

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        Did they really gain that much/anything from all of this?

        Probably some atomizing cheap individual payoffs. :capitalist-laugh:

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        Those that fought back did a poorly planned coup and one of the last defenders of the USSR killed himself upon that being crushed. Sergey Akhromeyev was a truly dedicated communist and is the prime example of the loyal Soviet military man.

        “I openly state my position. I support the socialist way of life. If someone attempts to split the country or change its social system by force or other unconstitutional acts, the president and the Soviets can decide to use force to ensure the protection of our motherland. Unify and maintain its constitutional social system.”

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        Well Gorby purged the military leadership of the “hardliners” (actual communists) before he started his reforms. He really thought the left would be a bigger threat than the radical liberal opposition.

        He also drastically slashed the military budget and conditions for the soldiers were already poor in the late 80s. The conscription system had been corrupted and many conscripts were abused and used as slave labor. Cutting the budget made these problems worse, and then the Warsaw Pact collapsed and the army lost all their foreign allies.

        So by the time stuff starts really falling apart, the Red Army is left disillusioned and directionless. They try to intervene a few times but accomplish little more than shooting some protesters and making everyone angrier. Gorbachev meanwhile refuses to lead, and instead focuses his attention on blaming his subordinates and firing more “hardliners”. When the August Coup happens, again Gorby refuses to take leadership or even a stance on it at all, and what’s left of the army isn’t willing to risk a massacre on behalf of, let’s be honest, a desperate last ditch attempt to regain control of the situation.

        Afterwards, many soldiers could make chaos very lucrative for themselves by becoming gangsters or running drugs/arms. The death of a nation is so tragic.

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          And those that did stick around who had some loyalty still left during Chechnya. Deputy Minister of Defense General Boris Gromov resigned, keep in mind he had been VP for the communist party during the 1991 elections