(Yeah yeah, preaching to the choir; admittedly this is for the idiot libs who keep posting here)
Our country’s killed a million people almost every decade (with some decades seeing more than a million) after WW2, we pass laws to criminalize homelessness and in some cases to indirectly kill them like making it illegal to provide them shelter during winter, we have the largest prison population on earth not because the average American is a criminal but because this is a police state (or maybe you disagree and think the average guy is a criminal?), our cops kill an insane amount of people every year and are allowed to get away with it (even in many cases where we have video evidence), the government’s conducted inhuman experiments on us, and we’re literally part of the fabric of many nations’ histories that are halfway round the world because we’ve intervened extremely heavily in their countries to the point of getting rid of their leaders and installing violent dictators. Access to healthcare in these countries is also leagues better than it was back home.
And people’s reaction today is to actually think somehow CHINA’S worse than us; there’s a reason why Argentinians celebrate 9/11 and even have a street named after it even though they don’t even border us. It takes propaganda to turn people into frothing lunatics in regards to any of those three countries, but with America all it takes is surviving us or people learning from their parents or their grandparents why they lack so many family members and why the family they still have are horribly disfigured, and that accounts for many, many people around the world. The mines the Vietnam war left behind was killing about 100 people every year until around 2000, and then it was 50 people every year.
To quote Bush Sr. after our forces shot down an Iranian passenger plane, whom so many libs were quick to show deference to when he kicked it, “I’m not an apologize for America kind of guy”. He also got applause for that.
America is easily worse than China, Russia and Saudi Arabia, UNLESS human life has no value, then we’re better. Honestly the only thing less valuable than human life to America is a bullet.
Cope.
I think Saudi Arabia might be worse tbh, they have an actual monarchy and didn’t let women drive until like 5 years ago.
It is also a puppet state if the US and would be much different without American stuff
It is a puppet state but it sucks in its own right, they are moving towards better relations with China which is a good sign but there is a long way to go.
what’s worse about saudi arabia
What I just said plus a lot more. U.S. for all its faults lets women drive and has no monarchy.
very westoid response. women can drive in SA and the country (as well as the peninsula) is liberalizing quickly. monarchy or not the saudi people feel like they have more democracy than the americans do because their material needs are met, so how is bourgeois democracy better or worse than a monarchy in our liberal-international system? now that the score is even tell me again what is worse about saudi compared to the most genocidal empire currently on this planet?
CW:SA
Saudi Arabia locks up and then executes political dissidents, sometimes even their families too. They assassinate people that portray them in a bad light. There is extensive slavery in the country, rivaled only by their other Wahhabi neighbors. Not only are they an absolute monarchy, the aristocracy (royal family) hoards all the wealth, there is no social mobility for those not closely related to a prince. They just let a bunch of pilgrims die from denying them access to indoor facilities. They are currently fighting a literal (littoral?) genocidal war, going on for the past TEN years.
They have been aligned with the West and committed to anti-communism and anti-secularism and against pan-Arabism from the beginning, they bolster the Israeli project, and have their deepest, most fundamental political relationship with the US.
We rightly criticize people saying “Russia would be worse” as a counterfactual with flimsy evidence, but for this case, there’s enough to extrapolate. If Saudi Arabia is not as bad as the US, it’s not for lack of trying, it’s because they simply aren’t powerful enough.
But try starting a “party for socialism and liberation” in Saudi Arabia and see how well it goes. Their “liberalization” is a charade.
vibes based analysis. name one “wahhabi” neighbour
all that you mentioned the SA doing the US does as well and more successfully, i don’t know why westerners want to do powerscaling with countries. and we’re not picking who the next hegemon will be we’re doing an assessment of what country is the undisputed king of capital that’s responsible for nearly every ailment in the world if you’ve read the op.
You’re really up here defending Saudi Arabia?
That’s less a defense of Saudi Arabia and just pointing out it’s better than America
i just want you to realize that your outlook on saudi arabia is based on orientalism than any actual marxist criticism, and your standards are hypocritical and myopic
by your own logic you’re here defending america, not a good look sweaty