Donald Trump's running mate is trying to wash away some of the former president's most incoherent and outlandish remarks.
  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
    51·
    3 hours ago

    This line of analysis really highlights just how incompetent Trump is at being fascist.

    Most seasoned politicians are more like Vance and can sell their reactionary policy in all the nice language liberals like to use.

    It also highlights how fucked the US is once Trump becomes irrelevant, because any one of the more competent fascists could potentially take his place, and Trump has set the bar so low that just about anyone else will be able to clear it.

    • FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 hours ago

      In my personal opinion trump isn’t ideologically fascist. I would consider him opportunistically fascist.

      I believe he wields his rhetoric for his own personal gain. I’m thinking he would just as quickly change his rhetoric if it advantaged him.

      None of what I’ve seen from the current GOP tells me any one of them has the same saucy charisma as trumf. He’s not built like them, his defining trait with the GOP is that he’s a garbage human being.

      • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
        2·
        42 minutes ago

        I think this way of viewing fascism is misleading. All fascist leaders use it to gain power - it is the willingness to use force against the out-group and hyper-nationalism that helps them solidify their position. It is the belief that doing so will make their country ‘great’ that is the ideological underpinning, and Trump absolutely fits that description.

        I think he’s just really bad at it.

  • Freefall@lemmy.world
    26·
    1 day ago

    He is a weasel politician with no real stance on anything.

    A failed (at everything) businessman and a pure politician…good job maga.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    14·
    1 day ago

    The fact is, Trump has said rising sea levels means “a little more beachfront property” and suggested the noise from wind power “causes cancer.” Vance can’t wash those comments away.

    Lunacy and I’m glad it’s being pointed out, but it’s not in a publication that anyone who needs to see it will visit.

    • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      1 day ago

      We should’ve been done with this shit almost 4 years ago. Trump and everyone else that participated in Jan 6 should’ve been rotting in prison cells by now.

      • Fedizen@lemmy.world
        16·
        1 day ago

        unfortunately rich people are coddled by the justice system in the US. It doesn’t help Citizens United is allowing piles of money to set everything on fire.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      38·
      2 days ago

      As a European I’m so tired of this bullshit, must be crazy over there.

      Just go out and vote, okay pretty please?

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    76·
    2 days ago

    Its clear there are no moral lines with vance. If Trump said “somebody should stab JD vance hundreds, thousands of times with a knife” Vance would try to agree with it. He’s such a greasy little weasel.

    • Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      141·
      1 day ago

      And they want this little shit weasel to take the reins if Trump is ever incapacitated or kicks the bucket. Pence was insufferable but this void of human emotion or empathy would literally sell out to the highest bidder while on a hot mic.

    • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
      22·
      2 days ago

      Little more than four years from now, the insurrectionist crowd will be chanting “hang JD Vance”. And JD Vance will chant along.

  • Breezy@lemmy.world
    196·
    1 day ago

    Vance came off as very likeable. He lied a bunch thats not the point, he was likeable for a lot of people. That matters more than policy sadly.

    Vance is dangerous now that he just seems to be a weird okay guy. No one who watched the debate can say Tim won. They both won but vance more so.