EDIT: Two responses from admins who dishonestly reframed the events of my ban
and apparently refuse to explain it. Apparently “long time users” get different
treatment. EDIT2: The reason was finally given that “Have you stopped beating
your wife?
[https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=have%20you%20stopped%20beating%20your%20wife]”
in response to someone trying to put words in your mouth and ask loaded
questions is a banworthy set of words. Incredible I know. ---- I would like
explanation for the thinking that led to me being recently banned and branded a
racist. I was randomly attacked by a bad faith troll who later let slip that she
was bearing a grudge based on some other encounter from 8 months ago. The attack
consisted of an attempt to paint me as a racist for this simple and honest
reading error. I am a principled Marxist Leninist, active in real life and any
reading of my contributions will support this and refute this slur on my
character. I can, at most, stretch to forgiving the ridiculous idea that I was
the one being “toxic” here, and not simply holding up a mirror to the toxicity
of the troll who attacked me for an innocent mistake, fantasised about me doing
hypothetical racist things, asked me loaded questions and tried to put words in
my mouth to fool credulous onlookers. What I cannot ever accept is the
allegation that I somehow engaged in “racism” anywhere in this interchange or in
any of my other comments in the years I’ve participated on here. I deserve an
explanation as to what you think you saw as racist in any of my comments. I
expect a complete apology, a clearing of my name and censure against my attacker
and abuser. Those involved shamed themselves with their actions. You have an
opportunity to make amends and undo that injustice you’ve inflicted. I run a
large ML forum with weekly views of tens of thousands and I recognise exactly
the temptations you’ve allowed yourselves to succumb to of abusing your power
for a false sense of righteousness based on petty bullying and unfair treatment.
I know that I’m not the only one who’s been a victim of this on lemmygrad. The
contributors to this forum deserve better moderation and better judgement from
the admins in general. The current process of banning people without right of
reply is abusive and dishonourable. That can be a separate discussion.
I expect a complete apology, a clearing of my name and censure against my attacker and abuser. Those involved shamed themselves with their actions. You have an opportunity to make amends and undo that injustice you’ve inflicted.
I run a large ML forum with weekly views of tens of thousands and I recognise exactly the temptations you’ve allowed yourselves to succumb to of abusing your power for a false sense of righteousness based on petty bullying and unfair treatment. I know that I’m not the only one who’s been a victim of this on lemmygrad.
The contributors to this forum deserve better moderation and better judgement from the admins in general. The current process of banning people without right of reply is abusive and dishonourable. That can be a separate discussion.
There’s a reason that sophistry was such a socially repulsive (yet unfortunately profitable) practice in ancient Greece that if a sophist was stabbed in public for performing sophistry (“I can use word magic to twist the words of the gods to make anything I want to do sound like their divine will!”), often the local authorities would just look the other way.
I’d rather take the sophist decentering of truth over Platonism though. Platonism and it’s consequences have been so corrosive, allowing pretending to access to an ordering truth that this allows for systemic oppression (e.g. man is in the image of God therefore superior logics).
We can never escape the sophists because unfortunately their radical critique of truth in language is the case. You can always make evil seem like good and vise versa (never mind good and evil are rhetorically - and materially - determined concepts). Thus there’s no shame in “fighting dirty” as it were or, even more aptly, using force instead of rhetoric when necessary.
Edit: tl;dr: who cares who wins debates when you have a ban hammer.
“So you’re saying he was trying to “debate” you about your gender and then you stabbed him? Alright, we’re sorry we missed one, these types were all supposed to be in the Gender Gulags already.”
– Future Gender Stasi officer talking to a trans person
There’s a reason that sophistry was such a socially repulsive (yet unfortunately profitable) practice in ancient Greece that if a sophist was stabbed in public for performing sophistry (“I can use word magic to twist the words of the gods to make anything I want to do sound like their divine will!”), often the local authorities would just look the other way.
Retvrn to stabbing debate bros
“So much for the tolerant Athenians!”
I’d rather take the sophist decentering of truth over Platonism though. Platonism and it’s consequences have been so corrosive,
allowingpretending to access to an ordering truth that this allows for systemic oppression (e.g. man is in the image of God therefore superior logics).We can never escape the sophists because unfortunately their radical critique of truth in language is the case. You can always make evil seem like good and vise versa (never mind good and evil are rhetorically - and materially - determined concepts). Thus there’s no shame in “fighting dirty” as it were or, even more aptly, using force instead of rhetoric when necessary.
Edit: tl;dr: who cares who wins debates when you have a ban hammer.
I didn’t say I was a fan of Platonism, either.
It’s a false dichotomy, like having to choose between “tradcaths” and Reddit New Atheists.
– Future Gender Stasi officer talking to a trans person