How many dead Palestinian kids will it take for you to change your vote?

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    You vote in the people that will try to make a difference, and if they don’t work out you vote for someone next time.

    So why are you voting for Democrats, when we both know they will just make things worse? They’re already promising to be harsher on the border than Trump was, promising unlimited support for genocide, and aren’t even going to reform the Court. They won’t try to make a difference. They’ll try to let Republicans keep winning so that hopeless, cynical voters keep voting for Democrats.

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      In the current political landscape, if you don’t vote Red or Blue you are giving your vote to whichever way your state swings.

      Even if I agree both sides are shit, I don’t want to allow the narcissist, racist, xenophobic, fascist, felon, wanna be dictator to get back in power and dismantle our democracy.

      I would like us to swing so far left it makes Rupert Murdochs head spin, but I’ll take the not-fascist if that’s all I can get.

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        Kamala Harris is a genocidal fascist and you’re brow-beating a bunch of literal communists for not voting for her so I’ll take the whole “but I’ll take the not-fascist if that’s all I can get,” bit with grain of salt.

        Die

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          The message I’ve been trying to convey in all of these posts is that if Trump wins we may not get a chance to vote someone better next time.

          I don’t agree with Harris’ stance on Israel, I don’t agree with lots of things going on.

          I just want to have the chance to change it eventually, especially as the Boomer generation dies out from old age.

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            “Look I don’t agree with Hitler on the whole Final Solution thing either but we may not have a Germany to reform if we don’t support him right now.”

            I can’t express enough that you will never convince us of the importance of voting to continue the genocide, or how much hatred I personally have for you at this point.

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            if america is so fragile that a 78 year old wet sack of shit can completely conquer it and declare himself king for eternity, then it was never a democracy or whatever in the first place. it’s a farcical joke of a country that should have collapsed ages ago. If Trump is the boogeyman that turns America into Gilead, then what good was America anyway? The second dumbest man on Earth (first is Elon) rose to ultimate authority and is going to press the fascism button? He’s gonna suspend all elections?

            if it was always this easy, then America’s been a ghost for decades and I don’t know why you can’t see that. If this whole goofy constitution beating, spirit of America, our democracy stuff you’re talking about, if all of that somehow hinges on one specific guy not getting elected into office

            then what exactly do you have

            what rights did you possess in the first place, and how flimsy was this stupid country to begin with? jesus christ just listen to what you’re saying. “vote for someone better next time” fam I don’t know if you know this but when candidates lose it’s not like they poof into the shadow realm and take all their support with them. They’re part of the American sausage factory for life. The donors that fund both candidates don’t go anywhere. The wealthiest of Americans continue to exert power no matter who tf it is. do you really expect Trump to suddenly flip the board over, when the wealthy are mostly content with how things are going?

            ask yourself this. Why isn’t Trump arrested right now? Why didn’t the CIA just shoot him with a polonium dart gun? If he’s supposedly this level of a threat, that he’ll flip over the whole state apparatus, that’d be a bad time for the bourgeois class, right? I can’t imagine the wealthy want to stir the pot, when…they’re literal ghouls who control the whole world. Why upset a good thing they got going? Look inside yourself and you’ll see the answer: the wealthy don’t give a shit if it’s Trump or anyone else. He’s the same type of American politician you always get, and he’s already proven that in the 4 years we had him

            Jesus christ I hate talking to libs, you always bring out the worst in me and make me type paragraphs just to content with your mindless pablum. fuck.

          • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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            if Trump wins we may not get a chance to vote someone better next time.

            You’re not getting a chance to vote for someone better either way. The Democratic Party keeps moving right towards Fascism because people aren’t willing to stop voting for them.

            You MUST show that they can’t take your vote for granted or they will never listen to you!

            Imagine the results come in on 11/5, Trump wins a close race by winning Michigan by 10k votes. What’s that? Jill Stein got 12k voted and PSL got 3k votes? Democrats will hate us but also might try pandering to US for a change instead of Dick fucking Cheney!

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              The Democratic Party keeps moving right towards Fascism because people aren’t willing to stop voting for them.

              It’s really more of a return to tradition. For most of American history, the Democrats were the haven for bigots, warmongers, and other such scum. The Dixiecrats are a far more recent phenomenon than most people think. Joe Biden himself got his political career started under their wing.

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            The message I’ve been trying to convey in all of these posts is that if Trump wins we may not get a chance to vote someone better next time.

            Feels like your election system is completely broken and it’s only a matter of time before the Republicans get it and dismantle it or whatever you reckon Will happen

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            You have a chance to vote for someone better right now.

            Let me tell you something I’d bet my life savings on: Trump isn’t going to dismantle democracy and be a super pooper dictator scooper. Can you really not cast your mind 8 years back to when people said exactly the same thing, and he won, and nothing changed? He’ll just be the same decline that the Dems would have been.

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            The message I’ve been trying to convey in all of these posts is that if Trump wins we may not get a chance to vote someone better next time.

            Last time Trump was in office the entire country rioted. Under Biden you’ve seen brutal crackdowns on students protesters and the rest of the country applauded like seals.
            Kamala has said she will work closely with the GOP, so which is it? Are they threat to democracy or someone to work with?
            The Dems are doing everything they can to crush any political movement, yet they’re somehow not a threat to democracy? Tim Walz had the army attack BLM protesters in 2020. Somehow he’s the good guy?
            In a sane country you’d be in a mental institution.

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            if Trump wins we may not get a chance to vote someone better next time.

            THEN DEATH TO AMERIKA.

            At least you settler pieces of shit pretend to fight when your fake opfor holds the White House.

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          He is saying both:

          “We can’t vote for who we want, we can’t vote for change.”

          “We must preserve this. Trump is a threat to it.”

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        Voting for Democrats doesn’t stop Republicans. Republicans dismantling Roe v Wade happened under Biden. Republicans withholding hurricane relief to people in North Carolina happened under Biden. The Democrats aren’t going to protect you.

        Vote Blue, get Red policies anyway. There aren’t really two sides. Democrats are happy to let Republicans hurt you, because it will scare you into voting for Democrats. Democrats directly benefit from Republican policies. Democrats benefit from fascism.

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        I would like us to swing so far left it makes Rupert Murdochs head spin, but I’ll take the not-fascist if that’s all I can get.

        And that would be Kamala “I am going to give even more support to Israel” Harris? The lady who has said she is going to have republicans (who I thought were a threat to democracy or something) in her government? The candidate with a running mate who sicced the army on protesters in 2020? The person who arrested black people if their children were truant and then bragged about it? That’s the not-fascist? jesse-wtf