cross-posted from: https://jamie.moe/post/113630

There have been users spamming CSAM content in [email protected] causing it to federate to other instances. If your instance is subscribed to this community, you should take action to rectify it immediately. I recommend performing a hard delete via command line on the server.

I deleted every image from the past 24 hours personally, using the following command: sudo find /srv/lemmy/example.com/volumes/pictrs/files -type f -ctime -1 -exec shred {} \;

Note: Your local jurisdiction may impose a duty to report or other obligations. Check with these, but always prioritize ensuring that the content does not continue to be served.

Update

Apparently the Lemmy Shitpost community is shut down as of now.

  • aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Someone is trying really hard to hurt Lemmy by continually attacking the most popular instance. Is this all coming from right-wingers upset that their nazi instances were defederated across basically the whole fediverse?

    • Kungolicious@lemmy.world
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      My tin foil hat is telling me it’s one of the other social media companies funding a hacking group to do it. They stand to have the most to lose, and they’ve seemingly decided to enjoy changing the narrative regarding multiple topics. Lemmy stands directly against what the bigger social medias stand for.

      I have no evidence to back this though. As a business owner I just know that things become very consistent when people are being paid, and very inconsistent when they aren’t. These attacks are seemingly very consistent/organized.

      • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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        You think a company that is posed to go public is going to attack a competitor with a minuscule amount of traffic with extremely illegal material that could put them in prison for even having?

        • Kungolicious@lemmy.world
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          Reddit? No. I was thinking moreso Meta. They have the deeper pockets and a proven track record of breaking privacy laws to their own benefit.

            • fsmacolyte@lemmy.world
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              So then why was Meta trying to get Threads to be on the Fediverse? Of course they’re aware of any potential threats, no matter how small.

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                Why reinvent the wheel if someone’s just going to hand you the backend? Lemmy is no threat to them.

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                  The threat is a new sustainable community that’s sheltered from advertising that people could leave Factbook/Instagram/whatever and go to.

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            Meta was talking about adding Mastodon federation to their Threads app. So I very much doubt it.

            They’d probably take an Embrace, Expand, Extinguish approach.

        • KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml
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          You would pay a third party to do it. And keep details extremely vague so you have plausible deniability.

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        You have a massively inflated view of Lemmy’s importance in the social media market.

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          The longer it continues, the more likely that scenario is IMO. Bitter alt-right extremists would probably start losing interest after a short while, whereas social media competitors would stand to gain from long-term interference.

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        I’d go with state actors first.

        When a particular social media platform is centralized, you can buy yourself a say percentage of stock and have sway over it (cough tencent), or have a useful idiot ruin the platform (cough musk), or another useful idiot to run propaganda you like anyway (cough truth social, cough fox news, cough newsmax…), or yet another that will sell out it’s host country’s citizens for cold hard cash (cough facebook).

        But when that social media platform is decentralized? Well, then you’d need to figure out how to poison the well early on to stave off adoption. The Saudi Arabias, UAEs, Chinas definitely don’t like the idea of lemmy, and it’ll be way harder for them to control if critical mass is hit.

        • aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world
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          Yep, that’s a great point.

          Add to that the fact that mainstream social media companies wouldn’t touch DDoS and CSAM attacks with a 100-foot pole, even if they contracted with a third party. Both of these attacks are highly illegal and would surely ruin a publicly traded company (or one that’s trying to go public, like Reddit).

          And don’t forget Russia in your list of state actors who are threatened by the unrestricted flow of information. They definitely don’t want their citizenry to be informed of how disastrously their invasion of Ukraine is going, or what a murderous scumbag Putin is.

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          You don’t get a lot of upvotes and sure we don’t know but it isn’t like the NSA infiltrated (in person) left wing groups and more.

          It’s definitely a possibility that someone doesn’t like decentralised content enough to put some meager efforts against it.

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      This makes the most sense to me. It’s a pretty vitriolic attack, therefore I don’t think it’s simply a troll while at the same time I don’t believe it’s any corporate social media.

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      Considering all the alt-right garbage that was popping up there the last couple of days this seems at least plausible. I sometimes envy their ability to utterly destroy anything they touch.

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        I’m sure you’d love to link to some examples

        See people claim this constantly with no proof

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          You want me to link posts that the mods removed? That seems like an unrealistic expectation. You could always check the post pinned to the top of lemmyshitpost where they describe the recent problems, but I suspect you didn’t ask for proof in good faith

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            Ah that’s actually my bad, I thought you were replying to a different comment in reference to hexbear

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      I wouldn’t put it past the hexbear crazies throwing a tantrum. They claim to be left wing… Sure seem more like fascist trumper types though. Maybe it’s just that they’re all incels and incels all seem about the same.

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        Throwing a tantrum about what exactly? They’re one of the oldest-running Lemmy instances. Until now they were running a fork based on a pre-Federation version of the codebase.

        You believe they did a bunch of work migrating their database only to then negate that work by destroying the community they wanted to Federate with?

        • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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          Well something to keep in mind is that hexbear isn’t one person … it’s a whole community that’s developed independently for a while. So it’s reasonable to expect that there’d be variation in the behaviours of members in the same way there’s variation on the rest of lemmy. From what I’ve gathered, not all hexbear members are keen on the re-federation, and some aren’t too keen on being “well-behaved” around politically opposed users (ie “libs”), though hexbear admins and other users have promised moderation and that such isn’t part of the core hexbear values.

          It’s social media, afterall … and people can be rather shit and ruin it for the rest of us. In the end, the core service provided a social media platform isn’t the hardware, sys-admin-work or software (however necessary they are) … it’s the moderation work.

          The moderation keeps the place sanitary enough for people to actually want to be here … however much we may have problems with particular actions of our moderators, we should really support and praise them at every turn.

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          At least a handful of users on hexbear had made their intention clear during the first week of re-federation, they were looking to cause chaos on Lemmy for there own pleasure. I don’t know if they were banned and/or their comments deleted.

        • CryptoRoberto@sh.itjust.works
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          Big difference between a few users who did a bunch of work and the toxic goonsquad the majority of the userbase turned into.

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        they’re all incels and incels all seem about the same.

        Downvote from me there. I’ve seen plenty of examples of hexbear people being nice, interesting and good sports. They definitely seem to have more of shitposting culture than is normal on mainstream lemmy. But all in all it’s seemed fun to me from what I’ve seen.

        Beyond all that, this is just superficial and prejudicial. If you had some examples to link to or more substantial insights to share as to why it’d be “them”, that’d be worth reading.

        Otherwise, they’re an instance. Not one person, I’m sure some on hexbear are assholes and some awesome.

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          So, so shocked someone it’s from lemmygrad that is defending the notoriously toxic “communist” tanky trollfest instance.

          • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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            Sorry, not from lemmygrad. And I’m on lemmy.ml because I joined before the Reddit migration and “Privacy and FOSS” (the focus of lemmy.ml) made a lot of sense for a lemmy instance/community.

            Beyond that … more superficial, prejudicial hate mongering without any description of why or for what purpose. Sorry, I don’t think it’s worth reading … a downvote from me … and, just being real for a moment … at the moment it’s more likely that you’re a member of a “notoriously toxic … trollfest”.

            Ironically, IME, I’ve seen significantly more troll-like tankie hate than I do tankie-trolling. I keep asking for receipts/links to tankie trolling here, as I’m genuinely curious to see it and understand what people are so upset about (please don’t explain to me what’s so upsetting unless it’s culturally thorough or coupled with some links+descriptions) … but no one has been able to do so.

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              Most people from hexbear provide sources, which is better than can be said for all the tankie hate.