discovery of the Borg, the Federation changed their ship designs
They hired a Klingon consultancy firm which suggested ‘Shoot first, and then have diplomatic conversations with their corpses.’ as the improved Federation policy.
I always find it amusing how supposedly pacifist Starfleet ships could take on their counterparts two to four on one and still come out winning on a routine basis, despite Klingons being both an older race and vastly more violent.
Them and Romulans. And borg. And the species that were kicking the borg’s ass.
Oooh, ooh, I get to use my favorite theory on the internet!
So I don’t think it’s a violence vs pacifism fight, but rather the VERY clear fact that the Federation is technologically superior to all the antagonists they’ve had to deal with.
So much so that they willingly disregarded research into certain military technologies via treaties simply because they didn’t need them, and were very certain they’d be on the top of the heap even without them.
And it’d be why, when the Romulans returned, there was an implied ‘Well fuck!’ when they saw what a warbird looked like now, and that it was on par with the best the Federation was fielding.
So back to the technological superiority bit: Q actually says this before tossing the Enterprise to the Borg. Everyone was smug, because they knew they were superior to the Cardassians and Klingons and to some extent, even the Romulans still.
The Borg was a nasty wakeup call that, no, they’re not some pinnacle of engineering might but still on the bottom of the barrel and just deluded because everyone who happened to be neighbors were worse but that was only a fluke of uh, geography.
And for that theory: Q tossed the Enterprise at the Borg because he’s a fan of humans for some reason, and that was an easy way to force a massive military buildup and thus the only way the Federation had even the slightest chance against the Dominion.
They hired a Klingon consultancy firm which suggested ‘Shoot first, and then have diplomatic conversations with their corpses.’ as the improved Federation policy.
So really, don’t need an empathic counselor.
I always find it amusing how supposedly pacifist Starfleet ships could take on their counterparts two to four on one and still come out winning on a routine basis, despite Klingons being both an older race and vastly more violent.
Them and Romulans. And borg. And the species that were kicking the borg’s ass.
Oooh, ooh, I get to use my favorite theory on the internet!
So I don’t think it’s a violence vs pacifism fight, but rather the VERY clear fact that the Federation is technologically superior to all the antagonists they’ve had to deal with.
So much so that they willingly disregarded research into certain military technologies via treaties simply because they didn’t need them, and were very certain they’d be on the top of the heap even without them.
And it’d be why, when the Romulans returned, there was an implied ‘Well fuck!’ when they saw what a warbird looked like now, and that it was on par with the best the Federation was fielding.
So back to the technological superiority bit: Q actually says this before tossing the Enterprise to the Borg. Everyone was smug, because they knew they were superior to the Cardassians and Klingons and to some extent, even the Romulans still.
The Borg was a nasty wakeup call that, no, they’re not some pinnacle of engineering might but still on the bottom of the barrel and just deluded because everyone who happened to be neighbors were worse but that was only a fluke of uh, geography.
And for that theory: Q tossed the Enterprise at the Borg because he’s a fan of humans for some reason, and that was an easy way to force a massive military buildup and thus the only way the Federation had even the slightest chance against the Dominion.