• Lovstuhagen@hilariouschaos.com
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    3 days ago

    The conservative position is quite simple: nearly every murder that is done by an illegal is potentially preventable if the borders are properly secured and we are actively deporting illegals when the opportunity presents itself. There would be very few exceptions to this - the very occasional overstayed visa murder, for instance.

    Of course we have to put up with the insane levels of crime in the US from local citizens, but illegal immigrant crime is also substantial, and thus it is completely valid to go after it… It’s really a two birds, one stone situation.

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      2 days ago

      Well I’m afraid I don’t understand the conservative position on citizen criminals. It doesn’t seem to get much discussion here at all. Of course I also want Americans to be safe and secure, everybody can agree on that.

      However it seems foreign criminals get brought up so often, it is as if our domestic criminals are less important, because I don’t see any news articles posed in here about that. Why so much focus on one and not the other?

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        2 days ago

        Conservatives talked a lot about the decriminalization of certain types of crime in California - it was a big theme in like 2022-2023 and still comes up. I think we also do tend to have these conversations whenever there is an event like what happened with George Floyd.

        But I think it might be less talked about overall because many conservatives do live in places like Utah, Wyoming, etc., where crime isn’t a big issue, and it doesn’t seem like a national issue. When they imagine crime coming to them or getting worse, they think of it in terms of criminals making up a greater proportion of the population and moving into new places, which goes pretty well with a fear of an unsecure border.

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          2 days ago

          Yes I think you are definitely on to something. And as such imaginings are perfect grist for the propaganda mill, there may be some chicken and egg factor to how the fear of the savage Mexican Murder-Rapist looms so large in the imagination.