But a concerning thing to me is that there has been a lot of crossover between some white nationalists and extreme islamist terror orgs over the last decade or so.
They have very similar (conservative) values and goals (accelerationism). One WN group that was recently busted up was called The Base, which is also the English meaning of Al Qaeda.
Though the American government is much more quick to label Islamic adjacent attackers terrorists than any white attacker.
Despite their similar ideology these groups have almost no overlap because they hate one another so I guess I’m not following your line of thought here. Besides endorsing similar tactics and hateful ideologies is there any other connection?
I updated my previous comment with the details I had forgotten. Commenting again since you probably won’t see an update.
In summary: google Devon Arthurs. He’s a neo-nazi kid who converted to an ISIS wacko and then killed some people and took some others hostage. That’s one clear connection.
That is interesting. I guess it makes sense that violent, unstable people might be drawn to organizations with mutually exclusive underlying values if they are similar in more substantial ways and use the same techniques to prey on such people.
I’ve seen some connections in my research recently, but can’t find the article mentioning it. I want to say there were ties between the remains of the AWD (after their leadership was arrested in TX/FL), the 09A (which is quite possibly bring run by state intelligence orgs) and ISIS. I’ll look through my notes more and see if I kept the link and I’ll update here.
Update: So my memory was kinda close. A kid from AWD, Devin Arthurs, was a neo-nazi who later converted to Islam and was a supporter of ISIS.
I think it is no small coincidence that this kid converted. The ideologies are much more similar than you would think.
Another scary similarity between these two factions is that they both actively trying to recruit from the US military and ask their supporters to join the US military to get training and intelligence access.
Correct.
But a concerning thing to me is that there has been a lot of crossover between some white nationalists and extreme islamist terror orgs over the last decade or so.
They have very similar (conservative) values and goals (accelerationism). One WN group that was recently busted up was called The Base, which is also the English meaning of Al Qaeda.
Though the American government is much more quick to label Islamic adjacent attackers terrorists than any white attacker.
The overlap is Abrahamic religion
Despite their similar ideology these groups have almost no overlap because they hate one another so I guess I’m not following your line of thought here. Besides endorsing similar tactics and hateful ideologies is there any other connection?
I updated my previous comment with the details I had forgotten. Commenting again since you probably won’t see an update.
In summary: google Devon Arthurs. He’s a neo-nazi kid who converted to an ISIS wacko and then killed some people and took some others hostage. That’s one clear connection.
That is interesting. I guess it makes sense that violent, unstable people might be drawn to organizations with mutually exclusive underlying values if they are similar in more substantial ways and use the same techniques to prey on such people.
Bingo!
I find it a bit funny you said basically “aside from their worldview being almost exactly the same, there’s no overlap.”
Two groups can hate one another and still fundamentally have the same worldview.
I meant overlap in membership.
I’ve seen some connections in my research recently, but can’t find the article mentioning it.
I want to say there were ties between the remains of the AWD (after their leadership was arrested in TX/FL), the 09A (which is quite possibly bring run by state intelligence orgs) and ISIS.I’ll look through my notes more and see if I kept the link and I’ll update here.Update: So my memory was kinda close. A kid from AWD, Devin Arthurs, was a neo-nazi who later converted to Islam and was a supporter of ISIS.
I think it is no small coincidence that this kid converted. The ideologies are much more similar than you would think.
Another scary similarity between these two factions is that they both actively trying to recruit from the US military and ask their supporters to join the US military to get training and intelligence access.