These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.

They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.

I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.

As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:

Is it worth it?

I have the answer, I know you know it as well:

No its not

I used to think otherwise

I was a fool

its not worth a few laughs

even if you dunk all you want, that doesn’t take away the knife those people put in our backs.

These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don’t make any room for them offline, why should we not online?

And really

How many essays have your written?

How many sources have you combed through?

How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?

How many attempts at good faith?

Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don’t read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.

For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the “good faith one” just reverts back to their old shit.

Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?

I don’t believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.

Is posting a meme to “own the liberals” worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?

No its not.

you’ve had your laugh, but it should end

Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.

Defederate from those communities. We shouldn’t sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren’t reddit. We came here to get away from that. I’m sick of this. We are sick of this.

End it now

  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    57·
    1 year ago

    Okay I actually have it all figured out, a solution that will make everyone else, but most importantly, me, happy.

    Hexbear dederates from everyone but lemmygrad. A new instance spins up, called Chapo.chat, and federates far and wide. Hexbear federates with Chapo.chat. Hexbear users can come out into the post trenches at will but also cycle back for some lib free r&r. And I get to finally be free of being called a fuckint Hexbear.

    How much is it to host one of these bad boys I’ll cover it.

    • Galli [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      33·
      1 year ago

      This was suggested before federation, possibly it was by you.

      I think it is a good idea but I also have another suggestion.

      User setting to disable private messages from federated instances. Turn off federation until implemented.

      The benefit of this approach is mainly that if it is pushed to upstream lemmy then it can be a tool for all marginalized groups on all instances rather than just a solution for hexbear alone.

      • hotcouchguy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        Honestly it seems like there should be more granular federation setting available to admins: each instance could have an on/off setting for posting, commenting, DMs, etc., and maybe other things like blocking new users from certain instances, or whatnot.

        This would be too slow to solve the immediate problem, but it’s something more long term to think about.

        • Galli [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          14·
          1 year ago

          This would be too slow to solve the immediate problem, but it’s something more long term to think about.

          Yes and I think it is important to emphasis that we should treat this as a problem that we must address on the fediverse level long term and not just a local site quick fix. This issue is basically a classic example of the tactics reactionaries use to dupe naive libs. Our critics tone police the public posts of hexbear users reportedly not civil enough in our defense of the marginalized all while the criticizing instances are hosting those conducting harassment campaigns in private.

          This sort of behavior can so easily continue invisible to those that it does not target and indeed it was invisible to me until this thread. What is great about hexbear is that this thread will be taken seriously as were previous incidences of private harassment (ie: TC69 vs downvotes). On other instances that are run by more reddit brained individuals I do not have the same confidence that such voices will be listened to.

          That is why our solution should be tools that can be upstreamed to lemmy, particularly ones that can be applied by individual users. In this way even instances that defederate with us will still be haunted by our specter.