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Opportunists can spot opportunists easily.
Because they’re both clowns. Dugin recently gave an interview with a Ukrainian reporter, and while he said a few correct things here and there about the Ukraine conflict (extremely obvious things that literally everyone has been saying, except he tries to make it sound like it’s some great philosophical insight), he spent most of the time rambling on about traditional values and some other esoteric bullshit, and went on a whole diatribe about how bad rap music is and what a great mark of civilization circle dances are. He’s also super obsessed with everything happening in the online MAGA sphere. He’s literally an out of touch conservative boomer Facebook grandpa who wants to live in the 19th century. Can’t take the guy seriously, and most people in Russia don’t. Just like most people don’t take patsocs seriously either. So they have that in common.
Dugin says a lot of “hmm… this could either be a good thing, or a bad thing… I can’t tell which” sprinkled in with super obvious stuff to anyone who’s paid attention to the topic he’s talking about in the last few years.
He’s a mysticist like them. Write one thing, get it interpreted 100 different ways. But only one is the right interpretation - the one the patsoc wants. If you read him the “wrong” way, they’ll beat you with “read him again” again and again until you come to see it the way they do. I’ve read a tiny bit of dugin to get what the fuss was about, it’s meaningless nonsense. He says stuff one sentence and contradicts himself in the next. He goes off on pure vibes. Actually, I wrote a bit about him some time ago: https://criticalresist.substack.com/p/alexandr-dugins-absurd-mysticism
Now I’m going into armchair psychanalyst territory but if you’re ready to believe them about dugin then they can start pushing you towards other stuff like maupin or infrared. It’s the same mysticist bullshit.
Is Infrared trustworthy tho? I heard some people saying he’s got good takes here and there, but something something broken clock is right twice a day something something
“No investigation, no right to speak” so I won’t say anything further, but it’s why I’m asking
No, definitely not.
It’s the same mysticist bs. They quote Marx like it’s scripture, and they will quote lots of him but always fragmented, always stopping short of the next paragraph that will disprove their point. It’s very superficial and they make Marx Engels Lenin etc. say whatever they want them to say by quoting the same old tired quotes out of context. Their “good takes”, if there are any (they have long stopped producing any, now they got their hands full with ACP doing damage control for Hinkle, their most famous representative, saying unhinged take after unhinged take)
I can produce the same takes easily.
“When our turn comes, we shall make no excuses for the terror.” [said in response to the Rheinischer Zeitung being raided and shut down by the police but I will conveniently not mention that] “Political power grows from the barrel of a gun is actually wrong, the original Chinese is 枪杆子里面出政权 which reads more correctly as ‘the power of the gun exceeds the spineless child’ 🤓” “The young people are the most active and vital force in society”. "For the other people, the babies, the young ones, I did not order them to be killed. For Son Sen and his family, yes. " (Pol Pot, but in infracel fashion I should misattribute to someone more palatable that quoted this quote or just not tell you who it’s from).
Clearly this means children are dangerous and we should “not make excuses for the terror” regarding them, and there is precedent for killing children, therefore communists must kill children. If you disagree btw you are a counter-revolutionary holding back the real communist movement which is exactly the one I’m trying to build a cult around.
Basically, find any and all quotes that support the point you are trying to make at face-value, and just blast them out everywhere. If people object to your interpretation, argue semantics or run them around in circles (“you clearly didn’t understand” but don’t elaborate, let them do the work). They have entire documents of these and you catch on pretty quickly when you talk to patsocs because they will always use the same quotes and never deviate at all. In regards to infrared specifically, well, they’re the ones that feed their audience this information in the first place.
*Regarding the translation it’s true if you read the Chinese absolutely literally with no sense of grammar or character combinations lol. I literally put the sentence in an online dictionary and picked which meanings I preferred to say whatever I want it to say.
Infrared thing is pure grifter shit. With the ACP angle mixed in they could be feds too.
Infrared is absolutely a grifter. But i don’t think the ACP are feds. Feds would be more subtle and less cringe. Feds would infiltrate and sabotage existing orgs instead of making their own LARP club. It would be a huge waste of resources considering how tiny the target demographic of the ACP is. The vast majority of reactionaries aren’t going to be drawn to an openly communist org. And the vast majority of progressive minded people who sympathize with socialist and communist ideas are too repelled by the conservative braiworms of the ACP. The ACP is literally filling a political niche that practically no one wants to be in. That is not worth the feds’ time. In my opinion.
Feds don’t directly infiltrate anymore, or at least most of the time they don’t. They get informants to do it, see Beau of the Fifth Column (his name is not Beau and he fakes a southern accent). Usually as the result of a plea deal. Then after that I assume the snitch has sort of free reign in how they carry out their operation as long as they submit results.
The thing that everyone should be looking at is how Hinkle, who is based in the US, gets to meet with Putin, Dugin, Ansarallah, Hamas, goes to Iran – basically does everything the US state hates, BUT never gets in any trouble for it. There’s a man (Mahmoud Khalil) who is currently MIA after being adbucted from his home in New York by the police for talking about Palestine, but Hinkle gets to talk to an audience of 2 million + on twitter, he gets to travel around the world meeting heads of state that sponsor terrorism (according to US State Department of course), he gets to meet current war enemies of the US, and he gets to talk about that on social media openly, and he doesn’t even get questioned when he comes back? Even Blumenthal, who is the son of an aide to Bill Clinton, got detained and questioned when he came back to the US.
That is indeed very suspicious. But how do the feds benefit from that? In the case of Beau it was clear, he was being used to propagate imperialist views under a progressive guise. What are they achieving with Hinkle? Are they using him as a spy? Or do they think that by associating someone as off-putting as Hinkle, who gives off massive grifter vibes, with anti-imperialist causes they can discredit those causes? Is it all about turning liberals off from anti-imperialism?
Because if so, i think they didn’t need to put in all that effort. Liberals are already conditioned to go along with virtually every imperialist narrative. Whereas principled anti-imperialists are going to stick by their position regardless. So what’s it all for? That’s what i can’t figure out. If he is an asset why aren’t they using him to push pro-Zionist and pro-NATO talking points?
And would you say the same is true of Tucker Carlson? He’s also gotten to meet with some very prominent Russians, including Putin, as well as other world leaders like Viktor Orban, who at least outwardly plays the role of an opposition to the EU Atlanticists. Tucker has also been saying some things that you’d think wouldn’t be in the interest of the Washington-Langley crowd. Isn’t it possible that this is just genuine reactionary infighting rather than all part of some nefarious master plan?
I’m trying to understand this but it seems too convoluted and too risky. I wouldn’t sign off on this OP if i was managing the CIA psyops division. What if instead of achieving what they want to achieve they instead inadvertently increase the popularity of anti-imperialist views? The only way this makes sense to me is if they are still waiting to “flip the switch” and have Hinkle do a 180 on his position once he’s amassed enough of a following.
Socialism for All has a video about Duginists.
