Thus far, Trump has not raised the possibility of sending actual troops to Ontario. Instead, he seems to believe he can achieve this Canadian Anschluss by simply crushing Canada’s economy and leaving it no choice but to join the US.

But Canada in 2025 is not Austria in 1938. “Canada will never, ever be part of America,” declared newly elected Canadian Prime Minster Mark Carney last week, making the country’s position crystal clear. And, last month, the Canadian Armed Forces announced that after years of declining enrollment, it had seen a surge in enlistments since Trump took office, with about 1,000 more applicants than last year. (Canadian officials couldn’t attribute the new rash of interest to Trump’s threats, but they didn’t rule it out, either.)

Given that Canada will never voluntarily join the US—which it is adamant about—would Trump try to use force to annex it? And would Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth go along with this crazy plan?

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    Just like they were “fighting for freedom” by invading Iraq, a country that didn’t have shit to do with the 9/11 attack or anything else going on at home at the time? Even after it was known they lied about “weapons of mass destruction”, people still signed up to be sent over there.

    They just need to find the right kind of propaganda to justify going into Canada, and then the meatheads will follow.

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        There is a strong undercurrent of chauvinism among conservative Americans. That America is one of the last bastions of freedom against the degenerate progressive-marxist-globalist movement.

        It will still take some twisting of facts and provocation, but probably not as much as you might think.

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          Just check out /r/conservative and you can already see the lines they’re being fed. It’s terrifying honestly

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          “The Canadians are mutilating children. They’re cutting their genitals off, and forcing them to live as the opposite sex. They’re brainwashing children into thinking that this is normal, that it’s good. A cult of child predators has taken over the government in Ottawa, and they’re using their power to mutilate, to brainwash, to destroy children and families. And some of them speak French!”

          And that’s all it will take to get plenty of soldiers on board. Whether or not the US can hold Canada I don’t know. A Canadian friend of mine seems to believe not. But getting violent, hateful, transphobic bigots to sign up? It’s that easy. Hell, most of em might not even be service members. Just happy bigoted volunteers, crashing the border and setting off fertilizer bombs attached to department store drones, all for the simple joy of “owning the libs” and “protecting the children”

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          Yes but theyre also insanely, INSANELY racist.

          Extermination brown people for sport? Good clean fun.

          One young white kid shown bleeding on TV? THE HORROR! THE HORROR!!!

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          You’re not wrong, i still don’t know what a progressive-marxist-globalist movement is, but i guess that doesn’t matter as long as people believe it’s happening.

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          “The Canadians are mutilating children. They’re cutting their genitals off, and forcing them to live as the opposite sex. They’re brainwashing children into thinking that this is normal, that it’s good. A cult of child predators has taken over the government in in Ottawa, and they’re using their power to mutilate, to brainwash, to destroy children and families. And some of them speak French!”

          And that’s all it will take to get plenty of soldiers on board. Whether or not the US can hold Canada I don’t know. A Canadian friend of mine seems to believe not. But getting violent, hateful, transphobic bigots to sign up? It’s that easy. Hell, most of em might not even be service members. Just happy bigoted volunteers, crashing the border and setting off fertilizer bombs attached to department store drones, all for the simple joy of “owning the libs” and “protecting the children”

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        That certainly won’t keep Canada safe. There are lots of brown people in Canada. We are a nation of immigrants. (And most of us like it that way)

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          Plus you guys have a lot more First Nations up there for America’s favorite historical pastime: genociding indigenous peoples.

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            We’ve been hijacked by a minority of religious death cults with lots of money. I don’t know when you last went to a non denominational church, but most of them in the countryside are bullhorns for Trump and his policies.

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            Prepare to defend your way of life then, if necessary with violent resistance. We in Canada certainly are. I still hear an awful lot of passive voice “do not support” and “wish it were not true” and “don’t know what to do” comments from down there. Everyone seems awfully reluctant to admit to themselves how badly fucked up this actually is. I think you guys need to accept how serious this is, organize, and get really, really active. Or not. It’s your country. I’ll be defending mine though, so maybe I’ll see you on the battlefield.

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              Are your gun laws open enough to raise a militia? Legit question, I have no idea what gun laws look like up there.

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                In Canada self-defense is not a legitimate reason to obtain firearms, much less paramilitary activity. Of course you can just lie and say its for “recreation” and go to the range every now and then, which you should be doing anyway.

                Additionally in recent years most self-loading rifles and all handguns have been made prohibited. You’re basically limited to bolt-action hunting rifles, SKS rifles with 5 round magazines, M1 Garands that cost $3000CA, and pump-action shotguns.

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                  Might want to reconsider that. Perhaps a more Swiss approach? I mean, stand on guard for thee makes it sound like Canadians are prepared to hold their ground.

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                    I doubt they will reconsider their gun laws any time soon. In either case, the better way to resist invasion is enlisting in Canada’s professional army, not going off on your own to form a shabby militia.

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      Iraq wasn’t their neighbor, the average american had rarely met or interacted with an Iraqi IRL or online. The same is not true for Canada. Our cultures and demographics are far more similar. It isn’t impossible but the propaganda would have to be quite impressive to shift the overall attitude towards Canadians.

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        And to add to this, once many service members got to know and bond with Iraqi local nationals, many of them formed friendships that we/they hold dear. Of my service member friends we all have fond memories with them. Of the ones I’ve met since being in, they all have fond memories too.

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          Meh, we have WAY more people interested in staying home and jacking off than those who are blood thirsty for war.

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          They will fuck with anything and anyone as long as they get that adrenaline and neuron boost.

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      Iraq is a country far far away that most Americans have never visited. Plus Saddam was a real criminal who attacked his own people with chemical weapons. That makes it easy for an average American to believe the false claims.

      Canada is right across the border. So many Americans have been there. many have wives and husbands from there. They are a democracy. no mass killing or genocides. Besides Trump is not even accusing them of anything. He just want to take it “for national security”

      The two situations are not the same.

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      They don’t even need that much propaganda. I remember soldiers pumping “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor” as a war anthem in Iraq. We have enough stupid shit in our “culture” to help justify it anyway. Just look at the pointless lyrics to that stupid fucking song that basically mean nothing yet somehow couldn’t be more on the nose if it tried.

      You wanted in and now you’re here
      Driven by hate, consumed by fear

      Sounds like every idiot asshole that signed up to kill innocent Iraqis and yet they used it as a war anthem for… killing innocent Iraqis. Fuck me I hate living in this stupid ass country.

      EDIT: Also check the YouTube comments for that fucking video, plenty of people still love it.