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    • “Boys will be boys”
    • “Well, why would he do that he’s a captain he can get girls”
    • ”What were you wearing”
    • ”Maybe you just didn’t remember the night accurately you said you were both ‘wasted’”
    • ”So have you like heard of the bro-code before?”
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      It’s so it can be shared on places with algorithmic censorship for the most likes as possible

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        Boycott those places, otherwise we are consenting to being censored in the name of advertising profitability.

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          We’re not prying the millions of teens off the sites they use.

          The better alternative than screaming and preaching shit nobody wants to hear is to provide better alternatives. In time, topics like rape and murder and suicide are going to become almost a mystique, a forbidden world of knowledge. With sites like 4Chan finally dying, there’s a real vacuum out there for a place “kids can sneak off to” and learn the truth.

          Or even better, talk to them personally. Make sure the people in your lives, particularly younger ones, know they can talk about rape, death, sex and other “taboo” topics without being yelled at, shot down or reacted-to in a negative way. I promise, people of all ages are desperate to connect with others in an honest, non-judgemental way.

          It would serve us better to just stop using the internet ourselves and devote more of that time to helping people in person. I taught and coached boys and young men for a long time, I made a huge difference. It’s not even hard to do, it just takes patience and a calm demeanor and you can move mountains.

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            That sounds like work. Why can’t I bitch about the minor annoyance of a trigger warning and a line through a word?

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      Capitalism has neutered our ability to speak freely about the most important, most painful truths in our society.

      The platforms that most people spend most of their conscious thought-power have told our children and adults alike that things like rape, suicide, murder and nazism are so distant from us, so “unreal” that we don’t even have words for them anymore.

      This isn’t a small thing. Language has massive power in our minds to reshape our world. We use language to abstractify complicated ideas and learn how to examine them from different perspectives. Language is how we built a world a wonders and miracles, but we’re being conditioned every day to stop using language. Don’t read, scroll. Don’t debate, retreat to safe spaces. Don’t say bad words, someone might feel bad if you say “rape.” As if people aren’t currently being raped right now. I wonder how they feel about the word.

      But did you knoooowwww, that nearly a quarter of US adults are functionally illiterate? Meaning, they can answer texts, they can read street signs and a grocery list, but are almost incapable of stringing together a whole paragraph? This isn’t a small problem, it’s why the west is falling, it’s why we have nazis marching again. I mean… why we have “armband baddies” marching, or whatever the sanitized term is.

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        How is that capitalism’s fault, and not the fault of the ridiculous puritans the censorship is trying to cater to?

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          Because platforms cater to advertisers who cater to the broadest possible audience. Meaning they don’t take stances on any issues, they just use the broadest, safest possible forms of language and principles.

          If you take any kind of active stance about anything there are going to be “ridiculous puritans” somewhere, in some context who are going to be offended. And once you decide that you’re going to piss off some group of people, you have to then apply your principles consistently or you’re going to make even more public backlash and controversy.

          Platforms that are courting advertisers are going to try to make their platform as universally uncontroversial as possible rather than invite brands in who have to either align with the existing values of the platform or invite brands in who will have to then take a stance in any capacity.

          As a result, we have the largest gathering places for people’s minds, completely disconnected from reality by presenting people a neutered, safe version of the world without any possible way for people to see something that bothers them, because it’s far easier to sell products when people are thinking about the product, not your company’s stance on something. This is what’s turned our social media and the internet broadly into a marketing tool. This is why the internet is dead. This is why kids don’t even say the word “dead” anymore because they’re used to abiding by the brand’s safe version of reality.

          I mean, is this really hard to understand?

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            Yeah, because you’re overcomplicating it.

            This censorship in particular is coming from China’s overbearing government. Remove that element and capitalism is fine leaving things uncensored. Remove the religious right from America and there’d be less censorship elsewhere.

            They don’t censor as much in the UK, for example. Would you say China is more capitalist than the UK?

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              Remove the religious right from America

              Oh so it all hinges on ethnic cleansing then? I love rando internet takes. Fuck off, I don’t care about your points, you’re in some fantasy world.

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    Watching Live PD last night. Guy runs on a motorcycle. They have the area surrounded after he ditches. They’re looking for him and one cop spots him. He commands the guy and he’s complying. He’s almost on his knees and another cop spots him. He ran, full on run, and leapt onto the guy that was almost on his knees. The other guy that was commanding jumped on him after that as well. Guy wasn’t resisting. Guy was complying. Guy had hands in the air. Guy wasn’t reaching for anything.

    Cop after: “He ran and we didn’t know what he was capable of. So we tackled him and restrained him.”

    It’s absolute cop wank material. All of it. The majority of the time they are way over reactive and then try to justify it all. They have that disclaimer, but then most of the time they never really follow up with info, or proper info. “Guy was booked on blah blah.” Ok, but was he actually convicted? Was he found guilty, or did you just over react and your “oh I totally for sure smell weed” was bullshit. I’m fucking sick of seeing that too. How many times has jackass said that only to find…nothing.

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      And then they say “he was following his training” when people get rightfully angry

      And that’s a huge part of the problem. That is a part of the training. They are taught to see everyone and everything is a threat that wants them dead.

      Add onto that cops the constantly work overtime you got a group of people who are sleep deprived, hyped up on caffeine and ready, willing, and able to shoot you for looking at them sideways and won’t be held accountable for doing so.

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      How are there so many men growing up that want to abuse people and get away with it? It’s becoming a pandemic. Cruelty is becoming trendy. I’m so scared

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        I’d bet abuse in his past. Not that it’s an excuse, but it’s so much easier to follow the path you know. I grew up in it and decided to break the cycle. I only learned much later that my step father was abused as well. My sister hasn’t dealt with it. She’s always angry. She’s always yelling. She’ll argue instead of deescalate. I did it at first, but I realized I was perpetuating exactly what I didn’t want to. I was making myself depressed and physically sick for days after an argument. Luckily, I realized it pretty quickly.

        Abuse and trauma are a blanket in a war zone. The war zone (the world around you) is chaotic and unpredictable. Abuse and trauma is familiar. You know it. You know it isn’t safe, but you know what to expect. So you stick with it. Leaving that is hard. You have to leave the warm blanket behind. Trudge through the unknown chaos of that war zone, and find your way out. You want to go back to that blanket. To the predictable. The path out isn’t even totally for you, and you know it. It’s for the next generation.

        I feel bad for his kids. They’re not going to get any type of mental health care until they’re adults. I’d bet that “therapy is for pussys” and “Only women cry” is his household motto.

        My son’s girlfriend is in the same predicament. Her step father is military. Her mom is a detective. Her step is the abuser. Her mom lets it happen. She’s 18 and graduates this year. Yet they read every social media message. They track her on her phone through an app. They yelled at her to get a job, or she couldn’t play softball. They read all of her bank statements and grill her on what she spends of her own money. Then, he turned around a month later and said she needs to spend her time off filling out scholarships. She’s their full time babysitter to her sisters, who are treated well by step father because they’re his own legit kids.

        My son is so frustrated because he doesn’t know how to help. I’ve been helping coach him on how best to help and be there for her. I do what I can to communicate that she’s a good person. They can’t read IG photos so I’m constantly sending funny faces back and forth with her. She’ll come here with him for lunch as well and I’ll give her a hug when I sense she needs it.

        We’ve offered up our home if she wants to move out. She won’t, and I understand it, she’s stuck a bit, but it’s there. They’re moving after she graduates. She said she’s not going to visit them on holidays. She’s welcome here. I’d bet they’ll wonder why she doesn’t visit. People like that never understand why. She’s going to have to get her own car ASAP too. They’re using that as leverage over her. I told her we’d help as much as we can. Even if it means we co sign.

        I see this behavior in the military a lot, and I think it’s because it attracts people that don’t see a way out. Even if they think it is for altruistic reasons as a kid, the root cause is just wanting out of the home. Out of that situation. It isn’t until years later that they truly, hopefully, realize why they went in. Many won’t though.

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      They’re immune to punishment for their actions, like the president of the US. That always ends well.

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    My favorite thing about it is this the more you watch cop shows and cop movies the more you notice a pattern. The biggest villain for all of those shows, the most consistent threat? Internal affairs. It’s like every single movie and every single series it has shown up at least once. Those God damn Internal Affairs people stopping good cops from doing what they need to do. It’s maybe the single strongest trend throughout all of these shows and movies.

    Hell it was even a plot point in Psych. The show about fake psychic detectives had a bad guy Internal Affairs officer.

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      On top of that, if IA was as powerful and menacing as they are in the shows cops might actually be held accountable.

      IA feels like HR at any mega Corp, there to protect the institution not actually solve anything or ensure things are fair.

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      This is why I say the Wire is the best cop show out there still, espevially growing up with a cop. It raises up the parts of police work that deserve praise; eg. the individuals that get in for the right reasons or have appropriate respect for the job once there, the opportunity police have to make a positive impact on outliers in our society, etc. It also gives a pretty realistic look at how these things go wrong or become ineffective at an institutional level (and 100% don’t shy away from idiot/aggressive cops, narratively equating them to gang members). As far as I can remember there is never a “big, bad internal affairs” plot line. When it does come up it’s in reference to a character’s problematic behavior and treated as a fair consequence of their actions.

      Watch the Wire if you havent and you like crime-drama. It’s as good as it gets.

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      If only Stabler could have freely roughed up every single suspect, they might have caught a couple of the rapists sooner. Probably would have got some coerced confessions out of some creeps who were destined to rape in future too.

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        It’s called pre-crime and Tom Cruise said it’s illegal in his documentary, “Minority Report”

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      I’ve recently realized that this is true even for Russia.

      The demonization of KGB and FSB, popular at some point, is … not really against the regime, the regime is fine with it. Of course these organizations fulfilled their clearly stated function. But they are not the pinnacle of evil. Cause, well, evil likes uncertainty, and being an organization with rules is not that. KGB had whole universities, most of people from those work in tech, not in FSB.

      And FSB is not only doing what public perception says about it. They are doing a lot of usual security stuff, say, phishing and phony ATMs and public systems’ security audits are all their job. Actually those people I’ve met likely to have professional contacts with that service are … one can say very intelligent and perfectly understanding of good and evil.

      While thousands of cops, anti-riot units, internal troops and such are the real foundation of the regime. People kinda dumb, not well-paid, heavily dependent upon that state and also led by pack instinct.

      With that in place, the evil itself doesn’t need FSB to do whatever it wants, drug trade, murdering those they don’t like, undocumented prisons, kidnappings, whatever.

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      Reminds me of that one cop show from the BBC that covers an internal affairs and anti-corruption team. It’s called Line of Duty.

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    One night I walked home from work, in my work uniform, and some old guy with a personalized license plate asked me if I wanted to get coffee, at 9 pm. I was like, um no, and you’re weird, and then I went home and thought about it and decided to report it, wasn’t that long after the Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo serial killings of young girls in my city. The cop who showed up to take my statement asked me what I had been wearing, and then called me back to tell me he was just a lonely old guy looking for someone to talk to. Like who on Betty White’s green earth pulls over to try and convince a stranger to get into their car at 9 pm, a young woman many decades your junior, and thinks that’s normal? Fucking cops.

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      Entirely warranted fear of overbearing content moderation on corporate social media.

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        I guess that’s one of the reasons I don’t use corpo social media, goddamn. Use the words you need to, for fucks sake.

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          Sadly it’s a great way to get your post hidden or deleted. I hate it too.

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        it’s mostly a trend from tiktok… there a huge list of words you can’t use, and substitution words.
        but now it’s habit for them and you see youtube videos where they say shit like “and so he graped her til she was unalive” and not thinking anything of it….

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        I’ve never seen any evidence that it’s actually warranted and not just a superstitious offering to the algorithm

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      Capital is taking away our ability to speak to power about societal problems.

      It’s not a silly little thing, it’s a real problem that we need to address. Nearly a quarter of the US adult population is functionally illiterate. They are taking our power to communicate away slowly, little bits at a time. They start with the big, heavy topics that make people upset, the topics that might make people rally together and push back against the system. Rape? Murder? Nazis? Suicide? No no no, those aren’t acceptable so we don’t say that. Monkey see no evil, say no evil, hear no evil. Be quiet and buy your new phone and buy your celebrity energy drinks.

      Tune in tomorrow to see what the next banned ideas are.

      Grab your rake and shovel and work those fields, serf.

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    I posted this on FB today and my friend that works in the domestic violence shelter system told me she’ll tell me over coffee how many cops show up to harass women staying at the shelter.

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    Thank you for anticipating the words that I cannot stomach with my weak-ass feelings and censoring them for me. You’re my hero. you cunt.

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    I like “The Rookie”.

    But all these cops obsessing over the letter of the law, keeping each other in line, caring about perp’s life choices and victim’s problems…

    This is fantasy. Might as well be Lord of the Rings.

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      There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

      -John Rogers

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      I used to like The Rookie, but honestly after George Floyd I just couldn’t stomach any propaganda cop shows anymore.

      Those motherfucker CHOCKED the man to death while smiling.

      The show tried to pay lip service to it but honestly nothing they could do could possibly be enough.

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        This happened to me with Brooklyn 99, than even for a cop show is kinda woke.

        Or the Dota show, that V, who has been oppressed by the police all her life became a cop officer on the first episode of the second season.

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          Well yeah, cause the only other way that story could’ve gone was “the OG Black Panthers were right, obviously the good guys and revolution is key” which isn’t a story that you’re allowed to tell.

          To be fair, that series pushed that line much more than pretty much anything else I’ve seen on TV, but they did Ekko so dirty.

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          99 got extra woke in the last season. I thought they handled it well.

          They address the George Floyd murder head-on. Rosa quits the force because of it. Jake is forced to address how he’s internalized some of those problematic attitudes. If you stopped before the last season, it’s worth giving it another look.

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        Pining for the well-defined good and evil; the inherent goodness even in some misguided heroes, the honor, bonding, and integrity of the protagonists, despite trial and tragedy. Our characters all striving for a better world despite any personal cost. Something missing these days.

        It’s easy to wish for that. But also easy to forget that it was terrible war, both the fantasy one and the one Tolkien himself participated in, that brought about such a grand story. It is real, to an extent.

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          But also easy to forget that it was terrible war, both the fantasy one and the one Tolkien himself participated in, that brought about such a grand story. It is real, to an extent.

          It doesn’t seem easy to forget for me - I mean, if someone’s brain just decides to ignore what “smell of death” means, or what “hewn dead bodies” look like, or the moments where besiegers of Minas Tirith use Osgiliath defenders’ heads as projectiles, or how small the events there are compared to the way idiots think of wars, and still how hard for their participants, - then maybe.

          And about honor and integrity - people put in a hard place behave this way more often than it would seem. Being in such a situation is a filter itself.

          It’s not all that unrealistic, there are good and evil in real life too. Sometimes with a contrast bigger than usual even for Tolkien.

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            It was real for them (as in Tolkien’s experience, which was translated into the fictional story).

            Not us.

            We read the stories and forget how horrible war can be, and unless we have actually experienced those horrors, our understanding is only intellectual.

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              I agree.

              But that would be everything written, and also when put in situations very moderately reminiscing such, I had associations with LOTR from my childhood where I didn’t have any such experience. Tolkien says literally many thoughts people have when encountering horrors.

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                That’s what makes a good writer and story.

                I cannot argue one way or the other if you’re going to simply take the faintest references and call everything the same.

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          Aragon led Gollum on a forced march without food or drink; Gandalf threatened him with torture. Even the most “good” of the good guys have moral failings in LotR.

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            Yes, they did. But they weren’t world-ending failings. They didn’t to enrich themselves. They didn’t seek advantage. And objectively they should’ve either killed Gollum or jailed him rather than this back-and-forth frenemy/enemy he became. Gollum certainly tried to do plenty of damage himself, but today we’d have to view him as having a mental illness so that’s different faming than just the story written in the last century.

            But, this is fiction, and how the story and characters were written.

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    I used to work for the Medical Examiner’s Office. I’ve picked up more than my share of rape/murder victims. You wouldn’t believe the shit I’ve heard cops say about the victims. I’ve only ever met a few detectives who really cared and were decent human beings, and coincidentally, they all came from years (or decades) in some other industry before joining their departments as detectives because they had advanced degrees. Never met a single uniformed cop or “promoted from within” detective who was anything other than a soulless piece of power tripping shit at their core.

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      I was a medic back in the day in a large city. Cops are assholes. Big goofy dumb goons. I’ve seen them do the dumbest shit. Light a smoke for a dead man. Was just one example. I sat at trial two times just to fuck up a cops day cause they routinely fucked people up for no reason. Goons.

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          I got stopped for speeding once at work.

          With an MI patient (heart attack) who was unconscious and we were doing CPR and pushing drugs. Had lights and sirens and were on a pretty much empty 4 lane divided highway. I was doing 25 over the speed limit. 5kms faster than allowed by law here for an emergency vehicle but I also had a lot going on inside the truck. No leeway allowed. I got a ticket, that’s not the terrible bit though as you read.

          Speeding. I had a screaming match with that fucker on the side of the highway. It almost came to blows honestly. Stopped seeing cops as protectors that day. I was 18 and a month into being a full fledged Paramedic.

          ACAB all day every day.

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    same thing for the military. I mean, I love Stargate, but I will not pretend for a second that it’s not propaganda.

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      Honestly I’m not a military fan, but in general they tend to be better trained and are actually a necessary evil, see Ukraine. Sometimes you need people to defend you from tyrants.

      Cops are just so much worse, they are given all the privilege in the world and they have comfortable jobs, at least in the western world, yet they act like they are dodging 50cal rounds all day every day.

      They think they are at war with the people they are supposed to be serving so this is never going to work.

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        That is absolutely how they think. I had to turn off an episode of “Dogs with Jobs” of all things because it pissed me off. There was one with a police dog and his handler talked about “the enemy” and I was like “you mean the community you serve, which may include some people suspected of crimes?”

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      Then you get into the actual military. It’s a bunch of high school kids with responsibility. Good leaders? Rare. Those higher end crazy weird assignments, like SG would have been? Those breed the worst because they usually attract the worst.

      “Here, Lippyballscacker will train you on this.”

      Wait, Lippyballsacker? Wtf?

      “Yeah, his supervisor was hanging in the building and remembered he had to pick him up at the last minute from the airport. One guy asked him what the new guy’s name was. “I don’t know, Lippyballsacker or something.” That name stuck.” - actual story from my time in aircraft maintenance

      When they guy left, he was gloating the name wouldn’t follow him. One of the maintenance supervisors had contacts at the new base. The name followed him.

      We also had a fuck up who was good at taking tests, so he made rank fast, but was an absolute moron. Didn’t realize he had to put his manual truck in gear or set the brake. Always had to repeat lefty loosey every time…out loud. Walked right through an antenna on the bottom of the plane. Didn’t skip a step.

      They show the military way too organized and disciplined. No. Bunch of blind leading the blind.