I think you’re wrong.
There is no ‘anti-American sentiment’ only an anti-Trump sentiment.
After he’s gone our European ‘leaders’ will be happy little vasals and bootlickers again.
I dunno about that. This status quo was created because America came out of WWII smelling like roses. All of Europe was rebuilding and so American prosperity of the time was basically like being the one only slightly scorched house on a bombed block. It’s been long enough that the countries in question aren’t in need of leaning on the one stable currency.
This could be the push needed to equalize the world stage and break off of old habits. Like take Canada for example. Food self sufficiency in Canada was always a concern. That’s why there was a tarriff on US Dairy, because Canada wanted to retain domestic self sufficiency in one of it’s food production spheres. That issue persisted through other sectors but there wasn’t a strong political motive to make that shift. The government wasn’t called to protect and incentivize strong domestic production to a great extent because the US generally has a better growing year in the south. To not have food security however is a weakness in Canadian’s self determination if things go bad. Now that things have gone bad structure will be put in place and protected meaning a semi-permanent loss of market for American interests.
What Trump has proven is American volitillity in it’s government structure and voting block and nobody will want to tie a shoddy investment around their ankles. In fact some might take it as the opportunity to cut loose a problematic ally.
Since you mention WW2 and Canada here are some things they never talk about or will admit.
The metafor of ‘scorched’ doesn’t apply to the US in WW2.
Even during the war they boomed from the war economy, jobs were abundant and companies profits doubled at the time.
And like today the US profitted from a war far from their unharmed country.
They also joined it purely out of self-interest.
It really angers me when people say they liberated us or wanted to defeat the nazis.
Fact is the Soviets defeated the nazis, 85% of Germans died fighting on the eastern front.
The Americans joined royally late in the European theatre after the battle for Stalingrad which was a decisive battle that ensured the Germans would eventually lose.
They were happy seeing European economic competition destroyed by war and the main reason they came in was to make sure they got a part of the loot.
Otherwise the Soviets would be at the Atlantic shores in no time and get it all.
And this all by themselves without the help of any ‘allies’.
That’s when we became vasals, we were not ‘liberated’.
While the United States had little interest in collecting reparations from Germany, it was determined to secure repayment of the more than $10 billion it had loaned to the allies over the course of the war.
Also they profitted from the Marshal plan after that.
Then Bretton-Woods which made us dependent on the dollar and we all became part of the NATO extortion racket.
They saw us as if we were another country they conquered.
Treating the population like shit with many cases of rape, even more in enemy countries, Italy or Germany.
Much worse was their total disregard for human life and the collateral dammage.
To them hat was a cynical benefit, again destroying our infrastructure and people.
Countless excessive bombings with mass casualties.
A few weeks ago there was the annual remembrance of one of those bombings in Belgium,15km from where I live.
Americans were suppposed to bomb a factory and again made a ‘mistake’.
As a result of their callous attitude 1000+ homes were destroyed, 937 people killed, 200+ of them children.
And ‘getting rid of the nazis’ is also not the case.
On the contrary, they actually saved plenty of them when they were sure the war was won.
It was already known the Soviets/communists would be their next chosen enemy and fascists were a good partner in this.
US and Brits ratted out the communist resistance to the nazis after they served their purpose and got executed.
Not so for nazis after the war.
The Soviets pursued denazification zealously.
In the west only a handful got the death penalty at the Nuremberg show.
The bulk of them got rehabilitated and kept important political and economic positions.
All was forgiven.
Even during the end of the war it became clear.
German forces did relative little against the allies but kept fighting a lost war on the eastern front to hold off the Russians long enough for the Americans to take their part, also if the Germans would’ve kept Western Europe there would be no one to surrender to that would
Countless nazis and warcriminals got saved trough the so-called Ratlines orchestrated by the fascist Croatian Catholic priest Krunoslav Draganović in cooperation with the United States Counterintelligence Corps (CIC)
Not only the well known ‘useful scientists’ from Operation Paperclip but the worst of the worst, like Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, Léon Degrelle and Claus Barbie.
The last one later recruted by the CIC to help extreme-right regime changes in South America.
An entire SS division composed largely of Ukrainians who arrived in 1947, with many later emigrating to Canada.
These were awful people, guilty of murdering 35000 jews in one day and plenty warcrimes.
And their fuhrer Bandera got to live in West Berlin under a different identity without any consequences. Until the Russians found him and rightfully put a bullet in his head.
The immigration of fascist Ukranians in your country was also deliberate.
Many of the earlier immigrants (ironically many Ukranians) were very left-wing and started demanding horrible commie things such as workers rights and unions.
The government couldn’t have that and this was their cure.
The consequences are still visible today.
All this to say the US was never our friend regardless of who’s in charge.
Also clear in recent years in the Nuland-Pyatt call where she said “fuck Europe”.
Or the Biden “there will be no more Nordstream” and the following terrorist act that made us depending on their 8x more expensive and polluting fracking gas which is killing our economy.
I really hope Europe breaks with the US but they take all these things without a peep. Our leaders are sold-out and continue their post WW2 vasal role.
They want to cling to the sinking ship while they should be looking east, the time of US hegemony is over.
The orange clown is doing the world a big favor in hastening that and his actions may indeed get some countries to seek better partners.
We don’t owe them anything.
I was with you until “they should be looking east”.
No, we shouldn’t. We should be looking to strengthen Europe. If anywhere, we should be looking south, to the decent countries that do exist in South America and Africa. Despite all the issues with the US you point out (that I largely agree with), they’re still a quasi-democracy, that doesn’t regularly disappear dissidents or wipe out ethnic groups. They’ve shown that they’re volatile and untrustworthy, that doesn’t make China or russia a better alternative.
regularly disappear dissidents or wipe out ethnic groups
The US does that constantly everywhere.
And do you think the African or South-American countries that have been colonised and leeched by Europe want to cooperate with us?
No, they turn to BRICS if they are not ruled by some vasal puppet.
What have we done for them?
We made Frontex, defending Fortress Europe shoot at immigrant boats and turning them away effectively sending them to their death.
They wouldn’t even be immigrants if we hadn’t meddled in their countries and fucked them up.
Also heavily complicit in the Palestinian genocide.
Think those countries like our ‘European values’ the EU political ghouls keep talking about?
Russia is our neighbour and we need to live in peace with them.
There wouldn’t be a Ukraine war if the US hadn’t caused regime change.
And now we suffer the consequences from sanctions while the US profits from them.
And China, the most important economy in the world should also not be our enemy.
That only benefits the US who want to see this happen exclusively for their own interests.
fuck the shitty us empire.
we are right in not wanting to be bullied by that shitty country anymore.
I think you’re wrong.
There is no ‘anti-American sentiment’ only an anti-Trump sentiment.
After he’s gone our European ‘leaders’ will be happy little vasals and bootlickers again.
I dunno about that. This status quo was created because America came out of WWII smelling like roses. All of Europe was rebuilding and so American prosperity of the time was basically like being the one only slightly scorched house on a bombed block. It’s been long enough that the countries in question aren’t in need of leaning on the one stable currency.
This could be the push needed to equalize the world stage and break off of old habits. Like take Canada for example. Food self sufficiency in Canada was always a concern. That’s why there was a tarriff on US Dairy, because Canada wanted to retain domestic self sufficiency in one of it’s food production spheres. That issue persisted through other sectors but there wasn’t a strong political motive to make that shift. The government wasn’t called to protect and incentivize strong domestic production to a great extent because the US generally has a better growing year in the south. To not have food security however is a weakness in Canadian’s self determination if things go bad. Now that things have gone bad structure will be put in place and protected meaning a semi-permanent loss of market for American interests.
What Trump has proven is American volitillity in it’s government structure and voting block and nobody will want to tie a shoddy investment around their ankles. In fact some might take it as the opportunity to cut loose a problematic ally.
Since you mention WW2 and Canada here are some things they never talk about or will admit.
The metafor of ‘scorched’ doesn’t apply to the US in WW2.
Even during the war they boomed from the war economy, jobs were abundant and companies profits doubled at the time.
And like today the US profitted from a war far from their unharmed country.
They also joined it purely out of self-interest.
It really angers me when people say they liberated us or wanted to defeat the nazis.
Fact is the Soviets defeated the nazis, 85% of Germans died fighting on the eastern front.
The Americans joined royally late in the European theatre after the battle for Stalingrad which was a decisive battle that ensured the Germans would eventually lose.
They were happy seeing European economic competition destroyed by war and the main reason they came in was to make sure they got a part of the loot.
Otherwise the Soviets would be at the Atlantic shores in no time and get it all.
And this all by themselves without the help of any ‘allies’.
That’s when we became vasals, we were not ‘liberated’.
While the United States had little interest in collecting reparations from Germany, it was determined to secure repayment of the more than $10 billion it had loaned to the allies over the course of the war. Also they profitted from the Marshal plan after that.
Then Bretton-Woods which made us dependent on the dollar and we all became part of the NATO extortion racket.
They saw us as if we were another country they conquered. Treating the population like shit with many cases of rape, even more in enemy countries, Italy or Germany.
Much worse was their total disregard for human life and the collateral dammage.
To them hat was a cynical benefit, again destroying our infrastructure and people.
Countless excessive bombings with mass casualties.
A few weeks ago there was the annual remembrance of one of those bombings in Belgium,15km from where I live.
Americans were suppposed to bomb a factory and again made a ‘mistake’.
As a result of their callous attitude 1000+ homes were destroyed, 937 people killed, 200+ of them children.
And ‘getting rid of the nazis’ is also not the case.
On the contrary, they actually saved plenty of them when they were sure the war was won.
It was already known the Soviets/communists would be their next chosen enemy and fascists were a good partner in this.
US and Brits ratted out the communist resistance to the nazis after they served their purpose and got executed.
Not so for nazis after the war.
The Soviets pursued denazification zealously. In the west only a handful got the death penalty at the Nuremberg show.
The bulk of them got rehabilitated and kept important political and economic positions.
All was forgiven.
Even during the end of the war it became clear.
German forces did relative little against the allies but kept fighting a lost war on the eastern front to hold off the Russians long enough for the Americans to take their part, also if the Germans would’ve kept Western Europe there would be no one to surrender to that would
Countless nazis and warcriminals got saved trough the so-called Ratlines orchestrated by the fascist Croatian Catholic priest Krunoslav Draganović in cooperation with the United States Counterintelligence Corps (CIC)
Not only the well known ‘useful scientists’ from Operation Paperclip but the worst of the worst, like Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Croatian Dictator Ante Pavelić, Léon Degrelle and Claus Barbie.
The last one later recruted by the CIC to help extreme-right regime changes in South America.
An entire SS division composed largely of Ukrainians who arrived in 1947, with many later emigrating to Canada.
These were awful people, guilty of murdering 35000 jews in one day and plenty warcrimes.
And their fuhrer Bandera got to live in West Berlin under a different identity without any consequences. Until the Russians found him and rightfully put a bullet in his head.
The immigration of fascist Ukranians in your country was also deliberate.
Many of the earlier immigrants (ironically many Ukranians) were very left-wing and started demanding horrible commie things such as workers rights and unions.
The government couldn’t have that and this was their cure.
The consequences are still visible today.
All this to say the US was never our friend regardless of who’s in charge.
Also clear in recent years in the Nuland-Pyatt call where she said “fuck Europe”.
Or the Biden “there will be no more Nordstream” and the following terrorist act that made us depending on their 8x more expensive and polluting fracking gas which is killing our economy.
I really hope Europe breaks with the US but they take all these things without a peep. Our leaders are sold-out and continue their post WW2 vasal role.
They want to cling to the sinking ship while they should be looking east, the time of US hegemony is over.
The orange clown is doing the world a big favor in hastening that and his actions may indeed get some countries to seek better partners. We don’t owe them anything.
I was with you until “they should be looking east”.
No, we shouldn’t. We should be looking to strengthen Europe. If anywhere, we should be looking south, to the decent countries that do exist in South America and Africa. Despite all the issues with the US you point out (that I largely agree with), they’re still a quasi-democracy, that doesn’t regularly disappear dissidents or wipe out ethnic groups. They’ve shown that they’re volatile and untrustworthy, that doesn’t make China or russia a better alternative.
Wipe out ethnic groups? I mean they invade but Uighur and Tibetan ethnic groups still flourish. Are there other examples?
The US does that constantly everywhere.
And do you think the African or South-American countries that have been colonised and leeched by Europe want to cooperate with us?
No, they turn to BRICS if they are not ruled by some vasal puppet.
What have we done for them?
We made Frontex, defending Fortress Europe shoot at immigrant boats and turning them away effectively sending them to their death.
They wouldn’t even be immigrants if we hadn’t meddled in their countries and fucked them up.
Also heavily complicit in the Palestinian genocide.
Think those countries like our ‘European values’ the EU political ghouls keep talking about?
Russia is our neighbour and we need to live in peace with them.
There wouldn’t be a Ukraine war if the US hadn’t caused regime change.
And now we suffer the consequences from sanctions while the US profits from them.
And China, the most important economy in the world should also not be our enemy.
That only benefits the US who want to see this happen exclusively for their own interests.
There is no anti-american sentiment, just an overwhelming pro-genocide sentiment within empire.