The original and prequel trilogies are worthwhile viewing. The sequel trilogy, however, presents a different case. While George Lucas provided story treatments during the 2012 sale, these were ultimately discarded. The sequels also marked the end of the Expanded Universe, removed from canon to allow creative freedom for filmmakers. Given that the stories deviate significantly from Lucas’s original vision, is there really a compelling reason to watch them?

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    Only if you want to get filled in on how bad they were. Otherwise, nah. Just watch the critics and you’ll get the gist of it.

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    There’s nothing magic about Lucas’s vision. But JJ Abrams vision is exclusively “bigger is better”. Death Star destroys planets? Well, this Death Star IS a planet. And it kills multiple planets, and it’s called Starkiller, and it shoots through hyperspace.

    Star Destroyer? Let’s make each one a Death Star. With a big gun. And you can ride horses on the hull.

    Stormtroopers? They fly now.

    (Godzilla? Uhh… My monster is just as big as Godzilla, and it’s only a baby.)

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    The animated stuff like clone wars and rebels make the filoniverse come alive. Early mandalorian was great, andor was as well. So skip the movies and enjoy good star wars stuff instead.

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    I don’t think they’re as groundbreaking as the original trilogy (my preferred trilogy) but they’re still watchable. Sometimes you gotta take things with a pinch of salt, even your favorite movie franchise.

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      I can rewatch the prequels. But the sequels are to me a single time popcorn movie.

      I liked the starkiller base scene.

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    I’d argue you should watch A New Hope because it was groundbreaking at the time, Empire Strikes Back because it’s amazing by any standard, and Return of the Jedi only if you crave resolution. Then watch Rogue One because it’s borderline better than Empire Strikes Back.

    There’s only 2 good Star Wars movies that are good by the standards of modern cinema.

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      I would add Rebels. First season is a liiiiittle more kid friendly and toned down than it really needed to be, the rest of it is fantastic and finished the story of Darth Maul.

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        If you hadn’t heard Maul and Ventress are getting their own show. She has hair!

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    No.

    They are all terrible movies, with droid-like performances, plot holes the size of a Sarlacc pit and effects and fight choreographies as pointless as the little pistons on the exterior of a surrogate hand.

    Mark Hamill should be ashamed of agreeing to participate in them, even more to compensate the fact that apparently Ford cannot help himself from doing it here and in the Indy movies.

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    i think they’re worth watching just so you can see how bad they are and how much disney fumbled the bag by hiring the worst people imaginable to write/direct the garbage.

    it really shines how much they finally “got it” by hiring Tony Gilroy to come in to fix/salvage Rogue One before letting him loose with Andor - arguably the greatest Star Wars ever made that’s on par with the originals.

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    I liked the first one from the sequel trilogy, the second one made me hate movies for a while. It was so bad, inconsistent and out of character. I couldn’t force myself to watch the third one, and lost interest in the franchise altogether.

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      The prequels are bad because it highlights Lucas’s failures as a director and dialogue writer.

      The prequels are memorable because they highlight Lucas’s talents as a producer and whatever equivalent to show runner that movie franchises have.

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      Reasons? Despite their flaws, the prequels remain connected to Lucas’s original vision, making them a worthwhile watch for understanding the Republic’s fall and Anakin’s transformation.

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        The reason I’ve seen is that Lucas’s flaws were on display in the prequels since he had the kind of power to make decisions with little pushback, while production of the original trilogy shows that Lucas worked best with people around him to help refiine his vision.

        Outside of Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor, the acting is bland and sterile. Hayden Christensen had a far better idea that would lead to the fall of Skywalker without changing much of the films. Major sequences are far busier than anything which came before, making the sequences pretty but less resonant and hard to follow. The four separate storylines in the climax of I was too much, especially as most people were there for the best lightsaber duel ever. The camera work for talking scenes is shockingly basic for someone as talented as Lucas was with film.

        I like the prequels well enough, but I can see why some don’t like them.

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          This.

          Also, they’re objectively bad films. If Phantom Menace wasn’t a Star Wars film then the rest wouldn’t have been made.

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    Force Awakens: I can’t recommend it but if it were already on I wouldn’t turn it off. Pretty much just repeatedly yelling “Hey, remember when you liked Star Wars? This is kinda like that!” But it’s inoffensive as nostalgia bait goes, a fairly well-made toy commercial.

    Last Jedi: It has themes and character development and adds depth to the setting. Uniquely among the trilogy, it is an actual movie made by actual adults. There are some pacing issues but it’s pretty solid on balance. Not amazing or anything but I’d say it’s worth the average Star Wars fan’s time.

    Rise of Skywalker: People were very upset that Last Jedi had been an actual movie, so this reversed course on that decision and HARD. There is literally nothing there at all behind the jingling of its keys in your face and it jingles them very aggressively.

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    See, here’s how it is-

    The movies suck ass. BUT the story still continues. And it continues in a way that I personally am liking so far. The new Ahsoka show, the mandalorian, etc. have worked out pretty fine. So I you want to be invested in the franchise (I would recommend this), then try watching the sequels.

    The prequels for example imo sucked-ish too. It’s the surrounding story and shows that made them a lot cooler (the clone wars especially).

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      BUT the story still continues. And it continues in a way that I personally am liking so far. The new Ahsoka show, the mandalorian, etc. have worked out pretty fine.

      Biggest problem is that they butchered Luke character beyond repair in TLJ. Luke is destiny to fail to understand why he won against the emperor and he can’t understand that the message of no attachments from the prequel era jedi is totally wrong and bullshit. In the Expanded Universe that Disney killed Luke succeed on that and the new jedis understand the force better, in the Disney canon the character that probably will do that is Rey. There’s absolute nothing that Filoni and the others creators can do to fix this.