Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at hotel. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread.
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After nearly having a breakdown after moving a closet into my home, I decided it is time to go and take a grass touching break for a while. Life has been giving me some mental warning signs for a few weeks now and I should probably listen to it.
Until later my comrades.
good luck
Take care, comrade.
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We all need it every now and then, all the best to you
Best of luck!
I will miss you
There’s a thread about the DPRK playing their first match in four years on r/soccer and it’s… somewhat positive? Like, some people are calling out the blatant idiotic statements even. What is happening?
Outrage machine is more focused on Russia at the moment, libs can only really believe bullshit when its being blasted at them non stop every day
That is one of the things that makes me a little hopeful tbh. They can only really focus on the “villain of the week” and so kind of forget that they are supposed to be hateful to other nations as well unless they are constantly reminded. Once that propaganda tap is shut off, the people will stop blindly hating so much, hopefully.
It doesn’t really exist for most people. I think the majority have moved on from Russia if they were really paying attention at all and only those who have the free time and luxury to be online for close to 12 hours a day give a shit.
I still walk past one house that proudly displays a Ukrainian flag on their front porch every day. I wonder how much they still think about the war, or when they’ll finally take the flag down. It’s become incredibly faded at this point, and looks more like an old beach towel.
I mean, one logical explanation is that they’re Ukrainian nationalists.
I need a DPRK soccer jersey, I’m addicted to soccer jerseys lol such an underrated clothing item
Lol that subreddit is something else. I remember it going full masks off during the world cup, when Argentina beat croatia and france.
That must’ve been a crowded pitch.
Wow that’s so weird. How does that happen? Normally such an extreme reactionary place.
Yea I haven’t been on Reddit in a long while, but I remember them being mostly ok with monarchy
I want a dprk soccer jersey
Got invited to carting on the weekend. Can’t stop thinking that it would be one of the things to go in the case of the worldwide socialist revolution. Due to pollution and all
They can be redesigned to be less ecologically harming, I’m not an expert on go karts or pollution, but I think the issues can be in the tracks and how much space they take for an entertainement, which could perhaps be fixed by making the track a park when it’s not being used, modifying the vehicles and the road surface, like by looking at the image here there’s a lot of unnecessary stuff
That seems rather efficient in terms of space. Making race tracks of any kind multi use is tricky. At least with full size tracks (think 5km road length or so) park area can definitely be made in and around, but cart tracks are pretty compact. In that image I don’t see anything that can be cut out while maintaining safety and functionality. Some races also use temporary road circuits but that brings in other issues from the massive effort required to set up and take down for just one event per year.
I think the primary pollutants from car racing in general are exhaust and micro-plastics (rubber from the tyres wears off on the road and gets into the environment). Both can certainly be mitigated.
Even so, I wonder to what extent we’ll allow polluting activity on a small scale for hobbies and entertainment. Of course polluting just for fun isn’t necessary (fireworks for example) but amateur/hobby sports definitely have a place in a socialist society.
They could also develop electric go-karts as well. They don’t need to be powered by fossil fuels. My local go-kart place is just inside a big warehouse and they just move tires around to make differently shaped tracks, that could certainly be an option for it rather than building a whole dedicated racetrack.
this already exists
If we banned cars and introduced free public transport, go-karters could have the roads practically to themselves without needing bespoke racing tracks that only have one use. There might be pedestrians and cyclists but the cyclists are used to it because of cars and pedestrians are slow, so easily avoided.
Electric carts go brrrrrrrrr
They’d have to be ground effect based or something as well, because of the tires and flooring
What’s wrong with the tires and flooring?
They let off rubber dust and plastic particles into the atmosphere
Okay but the amounts must be pretty minuscule right? I mean compared to regular cars? How many go kart tracks can there be in the entire world? Can’t be more than ten thousand.
Oh for sure, and the number of karts themselves is likely lower than that of regular cars, plus they’ve smaller engines anyway.
But it’s more in terms of what the other folks mentioned as “pollution as entertainment”, like fireworks. Can’t help but wonder if the future generations will look at the entertainment of our era the way we do at things like fox hunting (the one with the hounds) or human sacrifice
Some amount of pollution is inevitable. The natural environment has the capacity to absorb and deal with it up to a certain amount. The problem is that the scale of modern society is so huge that the amount of pollution we are producing is orders of magnitude more than the environment can absorb. The use of cars as it is currently practiced is not sustainable. But if we eliminated the use of cars for transportation and were only left with forms of entertainment like go-karts that probably would be sustainable.
One thing i am sure of is that the number of go-karts is not just “likely lower” but certainly much, much lower, as in many orders of magnitude lower. So these two problems are really not even comparable.
Out of curiosity i tried doing some rough maths on this.
First i looked up how many go-kart tracks there are in the world and didn’t come up with a definitive answer, but i did find that there are around 1.5k in the US.
I think it’s safe to assume that since this form of entertainment was popularized in the US and the US has the culture most obsessed with cars that the US would have the most by far on a per capita basis. I also don’t think that go-karting is very widespread in the global south, so we’re left with only the “developed” world and out of that the US likely makes up the largest chunk. Putting all this together I think that even my 10k upper limit is probably too high an estimate.
What is the average number of go-karts that a track owns? Again i have to estimate but i would say it’s probably somewhere between ten for the smallest tracks and a hundred for the biggest. Though even the biggest tracks probably can’t fit all of their vehicles on the track at one time. And like cars they also aren’t running 24/7. So all in all i think you could estimate that there are maybe somewhere in the vicinity of 250k actively used go-karts in the world.
As for cars, i’ve seen put the total number of cars in the world at something like 1.5 billion, 20% of which are in the US (which i expect to see reflected in the proportional number of go-karts, possibly even more skewed toward the US and Europe since i don’t know how popular go-karting is in Asia). I don’t think this number includes heavier vehicles like trucks that are mainly used for transportation. Anyway let’s say that of those only 80% are actually being frequently used and the rest sit mostly idle. That still leaves us with 1.2 billion.
I know this was all basically a bunch of very rough estimates but i think it’s safe to say there are at least five thousand times more cars than go-karts in the world.
Nah, f1 can hit the bricks. A little put put engine that runs on a thimble of high test fuel but still feels like you are wrestling a cheetah is perfect. Picture one of those little beasts with a tiny electric motor several of your drunkest comrades. That is what Stalin fought for.
Well said
I hope you all have a nice week :D
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Yooo, my teacher complimented the Mao background on my computer. He also uses sayings in daily speech such as “it’s joever” and “based.”PS: how do I get emojis to work? I can only get undefined and maybe “::” that doesn’t work.If you type
:xi-you should get two emoji suggestions (at least in the web UI), select one of them and it’ll autocomplete. On other clients, there should presumably be an emoji pickerThanks. I have an emoji clicker, but it doesn’t work.
It costs so much money to do literally anything, so tired of it
And it’s getting more expensive, too. The wonders of commodification!
I’m completely terrified of going to the doctor/dentist/nutriologist for a consultation.
Hello Comrades, I just discovered [email protected] . What is this community anyway ? Is this just Shitreactionariessay but for hexbear… or im missing something…
yeah, AFAIK it’s pretty much SRS for Hexbear, although it’s not NSFW by default
“the real progenitor of english materialism is Bacon […]” - friedich engels 😂 without context its pretty funny
[Engels was banned for carnism] /s
SNOWDEN LEAK:
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1703959863796158678
Cavium networking hardware may have NSA backdoor. This is used by every cloud provider.
Libs seething because this is not China backdoor.
amerikkkan politician mailers be like: “I’m not like those out-of-touch career politicians with their lobbyists and theatrics. I’m here to work for regular voters on the issues that matter most: starting with combating the Radical Gender Agenda and Building the Wall.”
Western politics is a clownfest at this point.
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
It’s pretty bizarre how big an a emphasis The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact gets among EU neocons on
and twitter. They treat it like it’s some kind of scientific truth of the horseshit theory. I don’t remember people being this obsessed about it pre-2022. (And they clearly don’t read much history.)and they conveniently ignore that France and the rest signed pacts with the Nazis long before the USSR did and rejected all offers to cooperate with the USSR
IIRC, France had a secret agreement with the Soviets under which they would both defend Czechoslovakia in the event of a German invasion. But the plan depended on the support of the United Kingdom and Italy, which refused to help. In addition, Poland refused to allow Soviet troops to enter its territory to help Czechoslovakia.
Even if it were true, by any mathematical standard Germany had done way less genocide at the time so signing it was right. Bombing brittian was the only good things the nazis did.
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They treat it like it’s some kind of scientific truth of the horseshit theory.
The Soviets also had non-aggression pacts with the UK and France and, together with the UK, invaded and occupied Iran to prevent it from allying itself with Germany.
Does Lemmygrad have an official statement on third worldists? Are they considered more as Ultras or Reactionaries?
Don’t know of an official statement. My personal opinion: I don’t see how they would be reactionaries. And I think the ultra tendencies are fairly clear to see.
Have had recent interactions with some and they tend to be pretty backward in their views on queer people, buying into the idea of it being part of some western agenda to “subvert” culture in the global south.
Yea they are led astray into these reactionary views, as someone from the global south i kinda get why these people tend to be “class reductionists”, our material conditions are much much worse than in the imperial core.
it is infuriating when international companies that have exploited our countries for decades hijack the queer movement and move the conversation away from class to identity politics, this of course does not justify hatred against anyone but i think it is one of the reasons why people are led to this. Its very similar to how conservatives in america do it.
Two choices: >colonizers who pretend to not hate queers >anti colonizers who hate queers, They’re misguided
That’s not what i typically think of when i think of third worldists, but yeah those are reactionary views. However i’m not sure that is sufficient to qualify an individual as a reactionary, let alone a whole ideological group. If that were the case then a lot of Marxist-Leninists would be reactionary too. People with progressive ideologies can hold reactionary views on some issues. People are complicated and such contradictions are very common.
The point i’m trying to make is that views such as the ones you described may be held by some individual third worldists, but these views are not integral or essential or a logical conclusion of the third worldist ideological outlook. Their ideological framework has ultra characteristics but not reactionary ones. At least as far as i can tell.
Today I went on r/genzedong for the first time in about a year, and it’s sad how that place has degenerated. For instance, this bit of libbery:
I remember when it was not so, and anybody defending porn and/or prostitution would be roundly dunked on.
Watched a police brutality video on Reddit for some reason. Comments were dunking on the cops with, “Go to Ukraine if you want to be a real troop,” and another saying, "you say that like they would join the Ukrainian side 😏 "
