The GoP needed a cultural political weapon. So they picked the weakest minority, gays and trans people. To use as a distractions, while they rob the public and destroy the country.
Someone’s comment that I read elsewhere pointed out to me that this is a similar tactic that was used back in the day with white only bathrooms and non-white bathrooms.
I know that the GoP politize the weird toilet obsession to use as a wedge (as they do with pretty much everything), but it feels like it has been a thing for much longer than that.
I was thinking about the very same thing yesterday and decided that men wanted to show their wieners to other men but not to women. I couldn’t find any other reason for gendered toilets😅
toilet stalls with large gaps is a financial decision. the gaps mean that the construction tolerances are more forgiving. they can be installed anywhere without much hassle. which reduces cost
If you know which set of genitals the person in the stall next to you has, you either voluntarily got in the glory-hole stall, or you’ve majorly invaded thier privacy.
Most people don’t give a shit. Literally or figuratively.
30% of America represents the majority. Out of that 30%, most are just going along with whatever because they’re dumb and watch media that validates their fears but if the story changed tomorrow they would let it go.
The remaining sliver of this group are the true fucking nutcases who post this kind of stuff like in OP’s image because they really do believe it. Because they are dumber than shit, they don’t think with language, they react to feelings and let their autopilot fill in the blanks and appear functional in society.
They are the absolute loudest and most energetic of every segment, and as such they get seen the most and influence the most people.
I would love to go back to not giving a shit but people can’t just mind their own fucking business so I keep getting into arguments about why does it matter if a trans person uses the bathroom they want to. Just leave people alone so they can shit in peace.
It’s entirely a modern, “developed” world phenomenon where everything in the world is sexualized to the point that you can’t use the bathroom or shower around other people without feeling weird. That weird feeling is real, and you can’t just hand-wave it away, but it’s socially constructed. I think we should all remember that. There are currently and have been many times and places where people just don’t care nearly as much about each other’s bodies or being seen by others.
When you really think about it, it’s absolutely crazy. We have been wearing clothing for less than the last 100,000 years or so. A blink of an eye evolutionarily. And that was just cold environments. Before that, we had a 4.1-billion year unbroken chain of successful life that as far as we know, never wore clothes or felt shame going to the bathroom.
I started to type “western” and then used the word “developed” nation instead, and even then I realize that’s not entirely accurate. Places like Japan and New Zealand have public baths, often with little or no real separation between genders. There’s a famous pic out there of a yakuza woman bathing with her male compatriots. They have a stronger stigma about tattoos than boobs.
Conservatives would absolutely explosively shit themselves if they visited a bathing area in New Zealand, or for that matter any of the many, many nudist communities in the US. You know, those places where we hear about horrible sex crimes that happen every day?
Wait, I’m being told that’s actually churches where the horrible sex crimes happen. Churches where people wear clothes.
I fucking swear, the same people who scream about bathroom “safety” are the same people who think all men are rapists if they so much as see a woman’s ankle and blame victims of assault for what they were wearing.
Yeah, it’s certainly irrational, but as you said, it’s very real. I don’t want people of the opposite sex looking at me naked (or even the same sex, but that’s less bad), and I’m sure they feel the same about me.
To me that sounds quite sad. Non sexual nudity is a unique experience it’s unfortunate that many will never be able to enjoy it or disassociate it from sexuality.
In Germany there are big and accepted nudist spaces. It was also quite the cool experience meeting strangers in a public sauna in Finland. It was such a peaceful environment, as everyone was literally exposing themselves and showing a certain vulnerability that we do not encounter otherwise.
Yeah, I’ve been to a public bath in E. Asia and, while it was uncomfortable for me (very different from my culture), it was fine. But I bet most people from my region wouldn’t even consider going.
Yeah if that is your hill you should be arguing for shower stalls anyway. Like you said nothing stopping anyone from perving in there as it is. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Why are americans so obsessed with toilets? Do they start the potty-training too early or too late?
The GoP needed a cultural political weapon. So they picked the weakest minority, gays and trans people. To use as a distractions, while they rob the public and destroy the country.
Someone’s comment that I read elsewhere pointed out to me that this is a similar tactic that was used back in the day with white only bathrooms and non-white bathrooms.
History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes.
The GQP sees the world in very black and white boxes, if you don’t fit in one of those boxes, then you don’t count.
They create black and white boxes for express the purpose of having people that don’t fit.
I know that the GoP politize the weird toilet obsession to use as a wedge (as they do with pretty much everything), but it feels like it has been a thing for much longer than that.
This isn’t about trans people specifically, but the very existence of gendered bathrooms dates back to hilariously sexist 1800s ideas about how men and women should only be allowed to coexist at home. No surprise that religious fundamentalists continue to weaponize private spaces against anyone that doesn’t fit their norms.
I was thinking about the very same thing yesterday and decided that men wanted to show their wieners to other men but not to women. I couldn’t find any other reason for gendered toilets😅
Culture war has been their go to strategy since at least the Nixon administration.
I’m sure all the gender stuff is fueled by the right, but what about that huge gap in the door where you can look people in the eyes as they shit?
Or the water level?
toilet stalls with large gaps is a financial decision. the gaps mean that the construction tolerances are more forgiving. they can be installed anywhere without much hassle. which reduces cost
Prolonged eye contact
If you know which set of genitals the person in the stall next to you has, you either voluntarily got in the glory-hole stall, or you’ve majorly invaded thier privacy.
Most people don’t give a shit. Literally or figuratively.
30% of America represents the majority. Out of that 30%, most are just going along with whatever because they’re dumb and watch media that validates their fears but if the story changed tomorrow they would let it go.
The remaining sliver of this group are the true fucking nutcases who post this kind of stuff like in OP’s image because they really do believe it. Because they are dumber than shit, they don’t think with language, they react to feelings and let their autopilot fill in the blanks and appear functional in society.
They are the absolute loudest and most energetic of every segment, and as such they get seen the most and influence the most people.
This is a broken system and we need help.
I would love to go back to not giving a shit but people can’t just mind their own fucking business so I keep getting into arguments about why does it matter if a trans person uses the bathroom they want to. Just leave people alone so they can shit in peace.
My only issue is when there are showers involved. But even then, homosexual people exist, so even that isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on.
It’s entirely a modern, “developed” world phenomenon where everything in the world is sexualized to the point that you can’t use the bathroom or shower around other people without feeling weird. That weird feeling is real, and you can’t just hand-wave it away, but it’s socially constructed. I think we should all remember that. There are currently and have been many times and places where people just don’t care nearly as much about each other’s bodies or being seen by others.
When you really think about it, it’s absolutely crazy. We have been wearing clothing for less than the last 100,000 years or so. A blink of an eye evolutionarily. And that was just cold environments. Before that, we had a 4.1-billion year unbroken chain of successful life that as far as we know, never wore clothes or felt shame going to the bathroom.
Nudist spaces (for example sauna) are relatively common in some parts of Europe. I don’t think it’s necessarily a western thing.
I started to type “western” and then used the word “developed” nation instead, and even then I realize that’s not entirely accurate. Places like Japan and New Zealand have public baths, often with little or no real separation between genders. There’s a famous pic out there of a yakuza woman bathing with her male compatriots. They have a stronger stigma about tattoos than boobs.
Conservatives would absolutely explosively shit themselves if they visited a bathing area in New Zealand, or for that matter any of the many, many nudist communities in the US. You know, those places where we hear about horrible sex crimes that happen every day?
Wait, I’m being told that’s actually churches where the horrible sex crimes happen. Churches where people wear clothes.
I fucking swear, the same people who scream about bathroom “safety” are the same people who think all men are rapists if they so much as see a woman’s ankle and blame victims of assault for what they were wearing.
Yeah, it’s certainly irrational, but as you said, it’s very real. I don’t want people of the opposite sex looking at me naked (or even the same sex, but that’s less bad), and I’m sure they feel the same about me.
To me that sounds quite sad. Non sexual nudity is a unique experience it’s unfortunate that many will never be able to enjoy it or disassociate it from sexuality.
In Germany there are big and accepted nudist spaces. It was also quite the cool experience meeting strangers in a public sauna in Finland. It was such a peaceful environment, as everyone was literally exposing themselves and showing a certain vulnerability that we do not encounter otherwise.
Yeah, I’ve been to a public bath in E. Asia and, while it was uncomfortable for me (very different from my culture), it was fine. But I bet most people from my region wouldn’t even consider going.
Yeah if that is your hill you should be arguing for shower stalls anyway. Like you said nothing stopping anyone from perving in there as it is. Gender has nothing to do with it.
At least the US doesn’t charge money (in general) to the toilet. I found that to be far more disruptive.
It’s not all Americans, just one specific political party that happens to have gone completely batshit crazy.
It’s not even the majority of that party, it’s a very vocal minority.