Oh I think I know how this will end.
Great. The sooner and quicker Americans shoot each other the better for the rest of the world.
All the other kids with their pumped up kicks
In other countries they sell modified versions of these handguns that cannot be made into machine guns with a switch. This is the real solution, but for some reason gun manufacturers can do no wrong in the US and are not held to higher safety standards.
Wasn’t the bump stock banned by Trump after the Vegas shooting? Then unbanned under Biden?
Sure. But this isn’t a bump stock. It’s a forced reset trigger that was just unbanned… Which is insane. It essentially converts semi automatic weapons to automatic weapons.
This will help his pardoned militia in 3 years
Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.
Does this mean we can get one now in California? Or is this still not settled?
I like how you are acting like most of us haven’t played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It’s certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren’t a thing.
I fully expect for police to have to fear being “suppressive fired” soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.
Let us not forget… an FRT doesn’t even constitute a “machine gun” by their own definition!
There are plenty of untrained idiots that will end shooting up a ceiling or the sky.
“We were going to win this,” said the former senior ATF official. “These things are not like bump stocks."
Forced reset devices are actually exactly like bump stocks in that they’re legal because they force a distinct action of the trigger for every round fired. The legal definition of a machine gun is a firearm that fires more than one round per single action of the trigger. They haven’t bothered to amend or expand that definition, so these types of devices keep skirting by on a technicality.
I suppose the argument could be made that forced reset devices work in a very similar way to a machine gun’s auto sear, the difference being that they act on the trigger of the gun rather than the hammer, but it still doesn’t meet the government’s own definition of a machine gun.
The ATF is a s terrifying joke.
Maybe if the ATF wasn’t so terrible and sloppy and did things that made sense and did things legally we could have some sensible gun laws.
You’re catching strays but your 100% right. The ATF is extremely ineffective, and are an actual road block in getting meaningful shit done! They like being unsupervised and shooting people’s dogs, like any other cop.
Remember gang, if your ID has an l, g, b, t, or q on it you qualify as desperately in need of guns.
I just wish I had a gay gun owning friend who could go to the gun store with me. I know what I want, I just like hand holding.
If you’re in the Kansas area, hit me up, I’ll go in drag if you ask nice lol
No need, seriously don’t buy at a gun store. Buy online and ship it to your big box store FFL, and then go pick up there.
Hmmm
Internet credit card purchase,
Or
Backwoods shack cash purchase.
Hmmm.
Shit, you can buy guns at gas stations in my neck of the woods.
I buy most of mine used locally via our state gun forum. Most states have one, just go on there look around, meet up, pay cash, show CCW and done.
I’ve yet to purchase a firearm that was “used up”. Most I buy people put a few hundred rounds through them at best.
In my area. Thanks!
Well, crap, I’m not gay, but I’ll hold your hand. :) What do want? That’s the interesting thing about guns, there is such a VARIETY for different purposes. Self defense, home defense, small/medium/big game hunting are all completely different.
If I’m going to raise my Kinsey scale a point or two for just a moment, there’s also the aesthetic to consider. I’m not ashamed to admit I’ve bought a gun that made me go “Ooooohhh”.
For example, when my dad died one of the guns I inherited was this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Standard_Derringer
And I’m like “Ok, that’s adorable, but in .22 it’s useless.” Also known to be problematic. Sometimes only one barrel would fire.
But I liked the idea so I bought one of these:
https://www.bondarms.com/bond-arms-handguns/ranger-ii/
.45LC/.410 shotgun shells
This is so real! I literally bought a knockoff ksg for $150 drink one night cause I was like “oooooo space scattergat!” I have shot it twice in two years, cause it weighs like 3 pounds and I can’t tell the difference between a cheap bird shot shell or a 3 inch magnum slug.
Nothing wrong with the KSG, but for me? I dig the old school Mossberg Shockwave w/ wood furniture. ;)
You are practically down the street from me.
Well, come on over, we’ll hang out! :) If you’re looking for a safe gun shop I can reccomend two:
East side:
West side:
I inherited a NAA-22lr. It literally fits in the palm of my hand.
They make a purple one now, which is cute: https://www.northamericanarms.com/shop/naa-22lr-orchid/
Even a .22 can kill someone.
Better to hit with .22 than miss with a .357. The US Special Forces have been using .22 LR Ruger pistols, with silencers, since the Vietnam War.
That’s really cool, but I have to admit I can’t immediately figure out how that trigger works…
I really like the idea of a 410 handgun, but I live in NY.
.410 handguns are tricky in a lot of states because they’re smoothbore, so they get classified as a short barreled shotgun and are considered illegal, the Bond Arms one above included.
Totally legal here, cross over into California? Yeah, not so much!
OK, that’s adorable but in .22 it’s useless
I’ll tell you what the guy that taught me used to say, " 22 or 50, no one laughs at being held at gunpoint. "
Stopping power is, for the most part a myth. I love 22 because if cheap, it’s light, and the guns feel nicer in my hand. My bud uses 9mm glocks because he describes them as the “iPhone of guns” you do you boo, just make sure your Deringer has a trigger guard, that’s just good safety.
Not only is 22lr weak compared to most other rounds, the fact that it is rimfire makes it less reliable. If you want a similar power to 22lr in a defense caliber, go with .25acp.
All true, but a .22 carbine rifle is way different from a 2 shot .22 Derringer with effectively no barrel and no sites with a bonus defect which may cause one of the two shots to misfire.
For .22? Give me this:
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/golden-boy/
Of course, I already have the big brother in .44 Magnum. :)
The gay gun, like a ray gun. I think they sell it at sharper image
The Trump administration seems pretty confident these won’t be used against them personally.
Well, they literally have a force feedback loop of propaganda aimed at themselves 24/7.
They think they own all 500 million guns in the US and they are all John J Rambo
That’s a select fire switch which is a little different.
What this is about are Hellfire Triggers which are impossible to control. If you know what one looks like, you can make it yourself.
Please with the hysterics it’s not like anyone has ever done something like that before
Please add a nsfw tag or other warning to this.
The history on this is interesting
Trump banned bump stocks as a reaction to the Vegas massacre.
Then the supreme court ruled that unconstitutional.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/14/g-s1-2929/supreme-court-bump-stocks
Now the trump admin is going to permit more things like the bump stock to be sold legally. Specifically, something that makes a semi automatic gun fire much more rapidly.
Would be a very Trumpian thing if he lost the civil uprising because of this decision.
Full auto weapons should be legal. Only idiots think full auto weapons are more dangerous. If someone is going to try using full auto during a crime all that will happen is the weapon will pull to the side and expend all it’s ammo in a few seconds. There is a reason why the military changed to semi auto/burst rifles as the standard.
Hey cool, the magazine will be empty before people can get to safety!
Before I read the article, I’m going to go with “bump stocks” as the device. Let’s find out if I’m right…
Nope although they do get a mention. Apparently in this case it’s forced reset triggers. Saying they allow a semi-auto gun to fire like a full-auto is a bit of a stretch though, even more so than for a bump stock.
Yeah that’s such horse shit. You still have to pull the trigger.
Hopefully it’ll end with the ultimate irony.
