Skinny jeans, crossing your legs, using an iron, shaping your eyebrows, and even eating soup are among the things he derides as too feminine.
DUDE!
If your super-manly-manliness is fucking threatened by… eating soup… you’re not manly at all, you’re just fucking pathetic, weak-sauce and insecure.
It’s like trying to be “cool” by telling people how cool you are, you defacto are not.My grandad ate soup every fucking meal after he came back from slapping nazis halfway accross the world, running uphill into fucking machine guns and he was more manlier than these shit-stain-producing-troglodytes.
Lmfao soup…? Like, a roasted butternut squash and garlic soup, mounted with locally sourced fermented butter and a dash of sherry? Fucking hearty as shit and delicious? That’s unacceptable? I will fucking fight you, you wilted fucking parsnip.
It’s all about the fragile man feeling like people will think they are less of a man for arbitrary reasons.
The real question should be, “how can I gain more control over my life?”
… but that requires actual work. It’s easier to just not eat soup and to wear baggy pants.
Ya wtf is wrong with soup. I make some bomb ass bacon and potato chowder. I have a fajita steak soup that will light your asshole on fire. And it’s fucking blasphemous downright unamerican to hate chili.
As a Nebraskan chili and cinnamon rolls are a staple of our winter diet.
I take more pride in preparing soup than i do grilling. Grilling an idiot can do. Soup takes skill
I love all kinds of soup and it’s the one type of meal where I can truly go insane with the amount of hot sauce I put in it. An amount that would probably make these soup-hating boys cry.
Can you share your recipe?? I love chowder and I can’t say that I’ve ever had fajita steak soup — sounds amazing!
Not at home this weekend. Can’t remember amounts but AI might be able to help you. Crockpot 8 hours on low. Chicken broth, onion, potatoes, bacon, ham if you want it, add cream cheese 30 minutes before it’s done
Crockpot Thin slices steak chopped, beef broth, beef bouillon cube, tomato paste, corn, black beans, onions, finely chopped green and red pepper, jalapeno, packet of fajita seasoning, chili powder, and cayenne pepper to your liking this is what you will want to be careful with. . Edit and diced tomatoes
Is chili really soup or is it stew. I’d say that the best chilis are stew not soup. A technicality perhaps.
Ive crossed my legs since third grade, fuck me for being comfortable
One of the biggest baddest dude that has ever existed drinks tons of shoup.
Hates it though.
Maybe not winning a war since your grandad kicked ass WWII, even though trillions of dollars were spent, thousands of US lives lost and millions mamed physically and mentally, has hurt their fragile egos.
I believe this shift to fundamentalist religious ideology in the US is overcompensation for what they saw in the Middle East where those folks stuck to and depended on their culture and beliefs to survive and when the soldiers returned they just saw fat fucking, lazy relatives complaining about everything.
Who won both Iraq wars?
Haliburton
And Iran. Who lost? American people.
The military industrial complex and their wallets
Nothing less masculine than getting on your knees and begging to a fictional daddy.
idunno chief, is he a Bara Daddy?
On the certain road down to incel-ism.
Actual title as I see it on the article:
Young US men are joining Russian churches promising ‘absurd levels of manliness’
Some notable initial content:
Skinny jeans, crossing your legs, using an iron, shaping your eyebrows, and even eating soup are among the things he derides as too feminine.
There are other videos of Father Moses McPherson - a powerfully-built father of five - weightlifting to the sound of heavy metal.
He was raised a Protestant and once worked as a roofer, but now serves as a priest in the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR) in Georgetown, Texas, an offshoot of the mother church in Moscow.
The disservice this manly man is doing to society is regrettable, because invariably, women are going to get hurt as a result of this traditionalist backwards thinking.
Fellas, is it gay to eat soup?
Depends on how wet it is.
Real men only eat moist soup.
Well they’ll do it in secret, but if you tell the guys about it, they’ll never do it again.
It sure is. Eat this hot dog if you want to prove your manliness!
Did your partner make it for you?
Depends a lot on what you stir it with and/or if you close your eyes when you slurp.
For those that do not get this one: it’s a reference to a somewhat older meme from the late 2010s
Heavy metal dudes are usually really nice. I bet most of them wouldn’t approve of this guys bigotry.
Am a heavy metal dude. Can confirm that I absolutely disapprove of this weak ass faker.
If you feel threatened in your manliness from checks notes … wait what? Eating soup?! Ironing? Crossing ones legs? Successful women?
Dude can’t handle soup! Soup!!
Asshole needs to grow a spine and put a brain on it.
Verdict: Not metal
When I read the bit about girls being taught to prioritize marriage over careers, I grimaced. Ladies, bless yourselves with your own savings and checking, but especially savings.
I blame reddit for removing atheism from the front page a 12 years ago
I wonder what this guy has on his criminal record.
This is a very valid question.
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is this Russia’s new ploy to get US spies?
Ya know Im quite traditionally masculine by my kins standards and frankly speaking I find these “I’m super masculine take me seriously” types to be rather amusing if not pathetic. Mind you my kin and I come from a cousin stock of Old John Brown meaning that traditional masculine activities consists of scalping slavers, burning Mormons alive, and making Southern Trash know their place.
How modernity has stripped many of us of our traditions, I must thank these weaklings for volunteering to help bring my ancestors traditions back. After all it won’t be the same, but these pissants will make fine targets regardless since they are close enough.
I am a fat, balding, overweight IT guy, I enjoy photography, driving to find new places, the occasional cooking and learning about modern history.
I live alone, I deal with cleaning, washing, cooking and paying the bills, I have my debt in check and can save money every month.
I am far more manly than any “alpha” male influencer.
Old John Brown
This guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)
Yep, my ancestors even sold to him a couple times. Though we were more bound to the frontier selling to various first nations groups we were friendly with
All religions are only about control. This one is no different, just that the control likely comes from somewhere in Russia, but it’s control nonetheless
It’s okay, there is no god, it’s okay.
Sounds like how to make men weaker. Wow. This is sad. Just a list of unnecessary things to be a snowflake about.
Note: to flush ouf these proud boys is to offer soup and watch them melt into a puddle of pathetic loserishness
There’s a huge shift in male role models over the past few decades, and it always felt to me like the people who could never fit into the old militaristic, athletic “conqueror”-style mould saying “we’ll invent our own definition of masculinity” than a direct, fully-bought-in progression.
This will leave people behind-- the ones who can’t find new “appropriate” idols or aren’t impressed by their achievements. The Linus Torvalds version of conquering the world is hardly the Genghis Khan version.
Maybe we need to find a way to broaden the modern pantheon to figures that can resonate with a traditional audience.
The Linus Torvalds version of conquering the world is hardly the Genghis Khan version.
An interesting point to make.
Richard Stallman is definitely my biggest inspiration. I never considered it as a masculine or feminine thing, just an example of someone who is correct while most of his peers are wrong.
The pen really is mightier than the sword, and it has been for awhile. That’s why the ruling class doesn’t want us to have any of our own ideas.
Some of these guys didn’t get the memo. They probably never had a good male role model to guide them on how to adapt to modern society.
They don’t want that though, they are turning to fucking news like Steven Miller and Andrew Tate. Because they ‘look like them’ and those guys are total assholes with perceived power.
This is one are where progressives and liberals have completely failed. There are zero male role models in progressive/leftist politics that aren’t women that are easily identifiable.
And when you bring this up in those circles you get talked down to.
I totally see why most average men want to be republicans. That party allows you to be a man (a toxic version of a man, but none the less a man).
Why are you looking for male role models out politicians?
You realize people want figureheads to look up to and follow, right?
That’s why trump is so fucking popular with morons. He talks to them, and tells them SOMETHING that they can get behind.
The manliest thing to do is complain about how you’re not allowed to be a man because the left doesn’t have someone as manly as Steven Miller (??) for you to emulate.
Manliness isn’t a course or a team and you don’t need other people to approve you being it. Have beliefs, stand up for people who are weaker than you, and build things to make the world a better place.
Also, the largest leftist streamer (hasanabi) plays videogames, like anime boobs, and clearly works out constantly. Bill Burr is constantly going viral for telling assholes to shut the fuck up with a big cigar in his hand. And Tim Walz’s whole political schtick is being a solid, caring, coach figure. There are plenty a representations of stereotypically “manly” figures on the left. The type that’s not represented there is the toxic dudes complaining about how every problem in their life is the fault of women denying them their rightful place as the masters of society.
No you mistake my point I’m saying that ‘the left’ doesn’t have as many figurehead people online in those spaces to call out the people like Tate and Miller.
These people aren’t role models for being a man they’re role models for insecure people who pretend like they’re strong and dominant. There’s a pretty big chasm between the two.
Yes. And who is on the left saying ‘hey you should act this fucking way instead of these douche canoes?’
That’s my point.
I do get your point, but I don’t think it’s really applicable to the left as these people aren’t actually acting like men and what they do emulate is part of their con designed to dupe people into thinking they’re strong in order to get votes and get elected, but these traits aren’t appealing to people who aren’t primed to be MAGA sycophants because we can see right through the act and know that they’re mentally weak and full of shit.
This is specifically why they targeted isolated, angry young men who don’t know any better with all their online propaganda convincing them it’s the fault of women, immigrants, LGBT, etc for the shitty life circumstances they find themselves in. What specifically do you think the left (or more accurately center-right Democrats) can do to appeal to these people who don’t want to improve themselves and would rather blame others for their own failings?
Honestly, I’ve had this conversation with a lot of people!
I think tough love is the answer. People respect an actual honest gut punch.
Tough love with motivation to be better. That’s what I would do. People want to look for something, to hope for something. They want to be part of a ‘thing’ that gives them meaning and a reason to get out of bed in the morning. For a lot of people that is what MAGA is. It’s a brilliant bit of propaganda from a political science perspective.
The thing that the people behind maga forget is that positive always beats negative for people. If the democrats came out with a ‘elbows up’ campaign to drive engagement, inform voters, and have an Obama 08 style organization behind it. Dems would sweep elections left right and center across the country.
The issue, is the democrats shunned technology after that 08 Obama win. Obama built up a massive online apparatus to win the election then the party tossed it aside. The republicans embraced the digital age and have moved their propaganda networks online, and the democrats did nothing to counter it.
There are some things that give the Rs and advantage such as gish gallop and stuff like that, but again, tough love ‘everything that man said is bullshit, your honor’ type discourse wins out. They just don’t want to get their hands dirty, and they don’t want to fund people that do for some reason.
In short, you don’t need to convince people to follow a billion different decrees. You give them a simple branding (Hope from 08. Where do you think all the MAGA merch idea came from? Those Hope shirts), direction, and figureheads.
Branding is easy, for me I’d pick something like Together. Direction? Focus on things people agree on and build out policy from those tentpoles. ‘Family? We all love family. Here’s how we’re helping YOUR family with X policies.’ Figureheads. Dems have TONS of super qualified women that are killing it. We need some fucking white bread dudes like Walz as well to be pushing these things (there are a few they just need more media around them).
From a dev standpoint, if it were me I’d create an app to push these things, make it social for people, and then gamify engagement by making it a ‘game’ to be informed of what’s happening in your area and in the country at large. Getting people informed is not hard and doesn’t take a lot of time, it requires newer styles of outreach that haven’t been done before. At least in my mind!
Thanks for the conversation on this btw, It’s refreshing! <3
when will they become jihadis
None of these bozos are going to actually do the fasts- which are traditionally essentially vegan, no meat (other than invertebrates), no eggs, dairy and only sometimes you get seed/olive oils.
I’m actually the highest level of orthodox, vegan 24/7 💅 meanwhile these guys are just treat hogs chasing the latest fad.
They’re also not going to follow the parts of Orthodoxy that say to be kind to other people and to mind your own salvation first. Orthodoxy is not like right wing Evangelicalism and it saddens me to see people like this taking over the church.
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I’ve got a friend who became Orthodox a few years before Russia even invaded Crimea in 2014, he does the fasts. They are hardcore. He’s a good guy and to see how politicized Orthodoxy has become the past decade or so makes me sad, he just believes it’s the correct church, as opposed to Catholicism or Protestants. I can’t say I agree with him but at least some of those Orthodox people are cool. Not all though, I’ve met some who were real tools, and any flavor of Christianity leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
You’d be surprised how much meat one can eat while observing the fasting discipline.
In Greece, for example, some stores explicitly label shrimp, octopus, squid, etc. as “fasting” foods.
Because they are? Certain seafood is still allowed. We eat a lot of fish during Lent.
How do you say: “I KICK ASS FOR THE LORRD!” in Russian?
Я надираю задницы ради Господа
After you are baptized do you get enrolled in the army and send to the frontline in Ukraine?
Not believing in stuff on insufficient evidence is pretty damn masculine.
