During a Tuesday hearing at the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, the DOJ urged a three-judge panel to issue an emergency stay of a lower court order and allow the Trump administration’s deployment of the California National Guard to continue in Los Angeles — going so far as to argue a president’s federalization of militia can’t be second-guessed by the courts, even if the chief executive mobilized forces from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., simultaneously.
I wasnt aware the DOJ could order judges to find in certain ways in cases.
Not yet.
Isn’t the national guard supposed to be a state level militia?
Makes zero sense that the federal government should dictate where and how they are used. The feds should be going to states and asking to borrow their militia for whatever happens, typically national disaster response and not murdering political dissenters.
National Guard is part of the Army which is typically composed of reserve units. They are a state militia that report to the State and to the Federal Government. Most of their assets are federal assets. The governor can activate the national guard in a state of emergency without waiting on the president. However, the president can take over if a national emergency is declared or during war time for redeployment. Orange Chicken Little has manufactured a national crisis that is the “Invasion of Illegals”. They are basically trying to strong arm dismantling the Posse Comitatus Act and bypass congress. Once that happens you can’t impeach the Donvict because he is overseeing a national crisis.
The time to rebel is now
These people want you dead
Arm yourselves.
Do not go quietly when they come for you
Drag one with you to your grave
My state says I have to pay a tax, do live fire training, get 2 background checks and wait several weeks before I can arm myself.
Guess we will just die.
Oh and I can’t carry it virtually anywhere. Maybe to the range if its unloaded and locked and ammunition stored somewhere separately.
Did I also mention I am limited to 10 or less rounds?
I was going to add something else but there is a kiaboy with an autoswitch glock and extended mag tapping on my window while I type this.
Breaking an immoral law is no crime.
2A is in our constitution.
Fucking preach, I wish more people in California recognized this
Arrogant shits, aren’t they?
quashing protests, will eventually leader to larger protests and then uprising, and maybe a rebellion eventually.
well, what did the ninth circuit have to say in response?
Either “We agree, he can do that” or “No, he can’t do that.” In either case, he will do that and nobody will stop him.
Do you want a rebellion? Cause this how you get rebellions
Yes, they do, because it will distract from the US joining a war in Iran, and from all of trumps other crimes.
The foreign wars arent the point. The foreign wars are a means to an end
The end. Is being able to isolate one’s self from the rest of the world. Enjoy perpetual dictatorial rule through martial law. And rule your corner of the world like an absolute monarchy. The other parts of the world can deal with their own regional warlords like Russia and China
The foreign wars. Like starting a war with Iran. Are likely going to be used as a vehicle to declare martial law in the USA. And once that happens. Trump is never going away until death takes him
He’s already never going away until he’s dead. Doesn’t need to start a war to effect that, it’s already happened with the corrupt courts.
I thought the war in Iran was to distract from the protests? What are they going to do to distract from the rebellion then?
Each individual thing is a distraction from everything else… It’s Putin’s playbook basically
It’s distraction upon distraction upon distraction while they steal the country.
It’s not even a plan. It’s notions of a plan.
It’s distractions all the way down
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That’s fascism, folks.
Arm yourselves.
Also, maybe don’t do something dumb like vote 3rd party or abstain from voting next time around. Y’all were warned. Now it’s happening.
What about all the votes that were lost, removed, not counted? The way the elections, gerrymandering and more, Its all rigged.
Look, if the only plan to stop the fascist uprising that has been building for decades was “win every election forever”, then there was no fucking plan. This shit was going to happen at some point.
Stop scolding people for not falling in line with you and start figuring out what to do next.
“Arm yourselves” and liberal vote-scolding in the same comment. Incredible.
liberal vote scolding
Oh have you guys come up with a cute name that lets you dismiss it easier?
It isn’t just liberals that are pissed at people like you, and your characterization is bullshit.
Unless the new definition du jour of “liberal” is “someone who was able to understand their own electoral system enough to vote for Kamala Harris instead of handing power to literal fascists”
Have you losers come up with a plan to win elections?
What do you think the goal of elections is? Just to “win”? This very post demonstrates military force against our own citizens–are you ok with that? I think it’s something we should all be opposing.
We’re all losing when we lose fundamentals of our democracy and our right to protest.
It’s ironic of you to ask me what the goal of elections is. As far as I can tell, democrats worship the status quo and civility. I used to think that democrats didn’t utilize political power when they had it, because that would be “tacky” or something. Now I’ve seen enough to realize that they don’t really want to change anything. If you keep voting for people like that, what can you possibly hope to achieve, aside from just to “win”?
It’s ironic that you’re lecturing “democrats” on worshipping the status quo while parroting the current right wing status quo propaganda. If you ignore what the media says, and instead look at actual votes (congress.gov) or watch congressional sessions on cspan, it should be very clear that a good amount of democrats tend to be the ones trying to govern, while the right wingers are constantly sabotaging everything they do in the name of corporate profit, then blaming dem’s for the fallout from whatever shitty thing the right wingers did instead of what the dem’s wanted.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched dems lay out thoroughly researched, thoughtful plans on policy, or thoroughly explain how the policies the far-right implemented are screwing working-class Americans, only to have some right winger passionately “rebut” their arguments with complete nonsense, get their 5 second media clips, then sit down and stare at their phones not paying attention until it’s their time to talk again.
Everything they tell you dem’s are doing, they’re the ones doing it. And now they’re telling you that what I’m saying is what OUR propaganda is telling us. It’s all bullshit. I’ve been watching the behind the scenes stuff for almost 10 years. It’s been this way the entire time. And btw, I started doing this because I used to consider myself a libertarian until I started noticing the lies. Particularly how the party of “individual freedom” fought so hard against same sex marriage (a freedom heteros have, that every INDIVIDUAL of legal age should have). I bought completely into the propaganda and didn’t realize how far I was from understanding what was actually going on until I really started questioning everything. I hope you can muster the intellectual honesty to question things in a similar way.
Newsflash: the republicans fucking win with their bullshit. A major component of politics is connecting with people. You can connect with lies and you can connect with truth, but long, technocratic explanations rarely. Like it or not, sound bites win elections.
Oh right, blame the voters in a rigged election. Makes total sense.
Yup. Until they take responsibility for the impact of their ego stroking and try to do anything at all to help, we’re not going to let the people just shy of collaborators forget it.
Especially when so many continue to double and triple down rather than just accept that they fucked up.
At least the “Arabs for Trump” folks did a pretty much immediate about face. Still awful that they existed in the first place, but at least they had the wherewithal to walk it back when reality hit them.
So many people here just refuse to, and will call your progressive beliefs into question because you don’t bury your head in the sand like them
They were too small a group to appeal to, now they’re solely to blame.
Which is it?
They were too small a group to appeal to
That was always a lie. But they are among the least reliable voters.
That was always a lie. But they are among the least reliable voters.
I mean, you can’t ignore people or treat them with undisguised contempt if you want them to be reliable voters.
How do you read “take responsibility for their impact” and then jump to “solely to blame.” I swear people just hear what they want so they have a reason to be angry.
Are they to blame, or are they small enough to ignore?
Which one? I get that you want both. But you only get one.
Found the 3rd party voter I guess.
The democratic party is a corpse these days.
That’s the assumption whenever someone contradicts centrist orthodoxy.
It’s wrong, but centrists never let that stop them.
Actually, yeah. A lot of people voted third party and many more stayed home. I will blame them.
What can your party do to appeal to them next time?
Hint: it’s not “jettison marginalized groups” or “move to the right.” That got us here.
You mean saying “I would do nothing different from Joe Biden” wasn’t enough to sway voters to vote? Wow what else could she possibly have done?
Running on the endorsement of Dick Cheney and promising to appoint a republican to her cabinet, naturally.
Thank God we avoided that, right? Right?
I would have thought eating the same gruel every day would have prevailed over eating saute shit a la fascism. As it turns out, Americans aren’t good at binary decision making and some like to be imaginary revolutionaries.
You have the electorate you have. Appeal to them for the first fucking time or keep losing.
I’d rather watch it all burn. The petri dish is long overdue for a rinse in this terribly drawn out social experiment.
Centrism manifest. You would rather destroy than listen to the voters you hate.
same gruel every day
Enabling, protecting and funding blatant genocide?
Purity politics have enabled more than one genocide, thanks to the non-voter.
enabled more than one genocide, thanks to the non-voter.
If Harris had ditched the genocide funders in the last weeks of the election she’d be president right now.
The DOJ attorney emphasized that “sustained mob violence” in response to ICE raids is “no ordinary civil unrest,” claimed that it is ongoing, and asserted that such violence is “expressly aimed at preventing federal officers from enforcing federal law,” supporting Trump’s federalization of the Golden State’s National Guard.
That’s just a lie, isn’t it?
Fuck these feckless attorneys who are willing to do this shit.
They should never be able to work again after this. At best. Many belong in prison.
Isn’t everything the fascist assholes say a lie?
That’s standard Republican strategy. A lot of the cases that ended up in front of the Supreme Court are straight up manufactured. In the case of the lady who refused to create a website for a gay wedding, they contacted the guy who supposedly made the request and he’d never heard of it before. Republican operatives basically looked up a gay guy in San Francisco and used his details in the website’s contact form.
Despite all that, the courts happily took the case and ruled on a complete fiction. Same thing happened in the case of the coach that forced his football team to pray.
Same with the student loan forgiveness. The one alleged plaintiff, MOHELA literally wanted nothing to do with the lawsuit and were just used so it appeared legitimate.
See also: “Weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq.
Literally fabricated “intelligence.”
Even if it were true, that does not amount to rebellion. Nobody is trying to overthrow the federal government.
Yet.
Well, it’s mostly true. I mean this isn’t normal civil unrest. This is the people being fed up with a government trying to use fear as a weapon against it’s own people. And the mob violence isn’t generally preventing federal officers from doing what they want, it is in response to it. There is some mob shouting preventing some federal officers ftom doing what they want.
But issue at hand is that the law is very vague about the quantity needed to trigger the allowance of using the national guard. By just reading it, ICE could send a single agent to arrest 5 people in a facility that has 500. If the people stop the arrests, then it meets the written requirements. It ludicrous though to interpret it that way of course. But since it was written so poorly, we are at the mercy of the courts.
Tastes like fascism.
This is dictatorship. It’s mild only because no one is fighting back. The moment someone tries the gloves will come off.
That is how they want everyone to feel so there isn’t much fight back. However, I think if there was, and the gloves came off, it may also split Republicans and even Trumpers.
Telling the court that the court has no say. Bold move Cotton….
It doesn’t.
When you’ve got control of the armed services of the government. And you tell the opposition “we’ve got the guns. Fuck are you going to do about it”. Law becomes paper. And the only thing left is the law of the jungle. In other words. War
I mean hes done it before with no consequences so we’ll see
So much to unpack there…
So the bestest president evah now caused a rebellion? Did that ever happen before to any president? Oh yeah, under trump 1 there was January the 6th, instigated and orchestrated by king Cheeto
And now there is another rebellion?
I mean, it’s demonstrations but seeing that distinction is hard for smooth brain idiots
Then telling judges that they can’t say no because else they can’t stop a rebellion? I mean, you STARTED it, if you want to stop it’s really easy: STOP BREAKING THE LAW!
And stop telling judges they can’t do their job
The keyword is rebellion…
But it is not really about current protests … it is to have all lights on green when there actually IS a rebellion cooking so the response can be swift and far beyond proportions.
“BECAUSE WE SAID SO!! OKAY?!”
That’s what authoritarianism is (leaving off the “OKAY?!”).
“Because once we have that power, we’ll use it on you if you speak out.”
yea, that’s how fascism works. “judges” are there to protect the state from the people, not the other way around
