This is where I fall off with liberals. “Lose the Trans talking points, they are holding the DNC back.”
How about first we try losing the DNC talking points. They’ve been in charge this whole time and I didn’t see trans people allow fascism to wash over the states while they were at the head of the government.
I support not hating or attacking people for their uniqueness and individuality but I’m not going to wear a badge or wave a placard. I will speak up or attempt to defend anyone being hated or attacked but I don’t have a chip on my shoulder and am not looking for a fight. Don’t take any shit from the haters. Haters are less, you are not!
My transmission is a whiny bitch and should not have it’s agenda supported!
Wait we’re talking about trans folks? Sure I’ll support them.
Survive and thrive!
hugs. hugs to all my trans sisters, brothers, siblings. we need each other now more than ever.
Protect the dolls
And the far right took that personally
Well clearly it’s my trans neighbor with no money and no power who is making me not have free healthcare, unions, and a house and not billionaires.
Can’t get the thoughts that this earth was made for psychopaths off my mind
The vast majority of human history operated on gift economies. Oppressive systems of government (and governments in general) are much more of a recent invention in the grand scheme lf things.
One we must end
Through immediate violence, not sitting around for years and years waiting for a legal option that may never come and if it does will be rigged meanwhile innocent people are suffering each day.
If it’s any consolation, psychopaths have suffered serious setbacks these past 500 years or so.
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Trademark? This doesn’t even make any sense. The person who posted this seems like a psychopath.
It is a somewhat common practice to trademark a phrase you want to use for a movement, like “cruelty free” products, otherwise assholes could slap it on anything and it would loose all meaning. A trademark would allow you to enforce some standard to use the phrase.
Unfortunately, trademark can’t stop people from using phrases like this in “noncommercial” speech. To me, it looks just like a request/hope people wouldn’t use the phrase “trans agenda” to mean various bs.
It’s sarcasm. The phrase “trans agenda” is constantly used to mean various bs. Trans people didn’t come up with the phrase.
It’s sarcasm. It’s mocking the idea that there is an official “trans agenda,” because transphobic dickweeds present us as having some sort of nebulous official Agenda. We are treated as a homogeneous group that acts together, with some sort of plan to do Evil.
I think
this ‘meme’the title of this post is a great example of what the problem really is. I do not have any issues with trans people. What I have a major problem with is that voicing an opinion, or have any form of meaningful debate, is met with immense aggression, trolling, cancelling, intimidation.I am for example not completely convinced about trans women in female sports and am sympathetic to arguments from both sides. Even voicing that will cause me to be vilified by one side.
Another example is transition care for children. I believe that at a young age making an irreversible choice is dangerous and we should be careful. Not saying care should abolished, just saying that such a big life decision needs extreme care because it can cause irreparable harm later in life. Again a reasonable, well willing position that will cause this to be downvoted into oblivion.
So, trans people, I support you to exist, be happy, live a meaningful life. But unfortunately there’s a group of loud people who are honestly behaving like psychopaths who are making it hard to stay sympathetic. Wake up.
(Edit) Wanted to share this NY times post that puts thing much more eloquent than I ever could: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/gay-lesbian-trans-rights.html
Another example is transition care for children. I believe that at a young age making an irreversible choice is dangerous and we should be careful.
… do you think transition care for minors is just handed out at the grocery store checkout or something?
“We need to be cautious!” would be much more compelling if the standard medical approach to trans minors was not already immensely cautious.
But unfortunately there’s a group of loud people who are honestly behaving like psychopaths who are making it hard to stay sympathetic. Wake up.
I dread to think of how quickly your sympathy would’ve been sapped for Black rights in the 1950s and 60s.
it’s not 2014 anymore. we aren’t canceling anyone. we’re getting canceled. JKR is doing victory laps. NHS has banned HRT for minors, as have 27 states. we’re kicked out of the military, and forbidden from security clearances. teachers in Florida can’t even use their own pronouns. Medicaid/Medicare/ACA funding for HRT for adults is stripped now. we can’t get passports with the correct gender marker. Sarah McBride has to use the men’s bathroom in Congress. Newsom calls us freaks. conservative media is calling us groomers and every time there’s a mass shooter they spread the rumor the shooter was trans. “gender ideology” is the new Satanic Panic. NYT keeps running op-eds on why Dems should throw us under the bus. Nancy Mace shouted “tr*nny” three times on the House floor and wasn’t censured for it.
you really think we’re the ones holding the cards?
It’s not 2014 and yet this is a post about not supporting the trans agenda makes one a “fucking psychopath”.
The joke, if you paid attention, is that the trans agenda isn’t a thing. They’re just trying to survive. So yeah, not supporting someone’s right to exist is some psychopathic behavior.
The fact thay you think there’s a trans agenda outside of just trying to survive doesn’t make you a psychopath, but it does make you an idiot.
What else do you call someone who wants to deny medical care for children and force them to go through irreversible changes?
With irreversible changes do you mean puberty?
Unfortunately puberty causes irreversible changes yes.
Now that doctors and parents en masse know trans people are a thing, if a child shows signs of gender dysphoria in early childhood, therapy is in order.
If the therapist determines the child is probably trans, and the (male) child insists they don’t want to grow up as a man, or vice versa, or whatever, and the parents feel like it’s not going to change and they’re more concerned with the child’s happiness than with some religious conviction or conservative values they may be clinging to…
The child should be given puberty blockers, which studies have shown do NOT cause irreversible damage.
As the child becomes a teenager and the situation stays the same… eventually it becomes obvious that some form of puberty needs to happen, and a choice has to be made. Usually this happens around 14 - 16 I believe.
It’s a tough decision, with many people involved, and the end result will be permanent irreversible changes to the teenager’s (soon to be adult’s) body.
If you force the child to go through a puberty they don’t want, you fuck them up… forever.
You destroy their life in a lot of ways. You condemn them to a life of harassment and rejection and isolation. Your own child.
This isn’t just mad doctors running around with meat cleavers going to town.
It’s a process that spans the child’s entire childhood, with thousands of opportunities to pump the breaks and change course, that if avoided in the name of something other than the child’s happiness and the doctors recommendations… will lead to tremendous misery and resentment.
I was born in the late 80s. My parents didn’t know what trans was. They took me to a conversion therapist when I was 5. Their solution for me was to “convince me to be normal”.
I grew up hating myself and feeling like a freak, because the feelings never went away, and I no longer felt safe talking about them… with anyone… so I was alone, hurting, in silence, watching my body change forever in ways I hated, trying to rationalize it all, imagining that one day I’d like the changes somehow.
That day never came.
I have been through a lot in my life. If my parents had known about transsexualism and gender transition, and supported me fully, my life would have been so much better.
I now have a whole host of mental issues that will haunt me until the day I die.
I want to love life. I want to see the good in people. It’s so hard when you’ve been through what someone like me has.
I am the direct result of your nervousness about treating children for gender dysphoria.
I am the alternative to supporting them.
Please don’t believe I am better off.
I’m not.
I am in psychological pain that never ends.
Banning HRT for minors was the right decision.
Are you a doctor? No? Sorry, your opinion is a irrelevant.
Since you seem to be chronically online I’m quite sure it’s YOU who is not a doctor. Which means YOUR opinion is quite irrelevant.
I’m not a doctor, but I’ve read multiple peer reviewed articles about the safety and efficacy of gender affirming care for children, have worked with children on puberty blockers (who were healthy and wonderful and were thriving under the treatment they were receiving), and am trans myself (so I’ve pirated and read multiple textbooks on trans care to advocate for myself at the doctors office.)
You are probably the kind of dumb fuck who think that 13 year olds are getting testosterone and dicks lopped off. Your opinion is worth the same as the toilet paper I just flushed.
I think if you want to be fair you make a distinction about policies you support based on your pov and how you treat the people you come across in your life. That could also make a difference to someone. Preferably by letting them know you’re ok with them existing without getting into a discussion about which policies you support and which you don’t.
For example, I could feel migrants take away our jobs and tell everyone I assume might be a migrant about my political views. That would make me a lot less of a pleasant human being than if I were to treat someone I assume is a migrant like the people I assume are not. Because to those people I also don’t start a conversation about how I feel about that.
I’m not accusing you of anything, but want to tell you that it is possible to come across people choose not to voice your opinion. Not just to prevent receiving that aggression, trolling, cancelling, intimidation you mention; but also because it might help someone feel relaxed when they’re around you.
I was only reacting to the title of the post, and I stupidly said ‘this meme’, that was a mistake. The content of the meme on it’s own I fully support. Apologies, thanks for pointing that out!
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Bash the red fash.
I rest my case.
Fuck your case.
No nuance for transphobia.
He literally said he supports us and that he wants to learn…
How in the world do you see anything he said as transphobic?
You sound extremely unreasonable right now…
You should probably not use words that you don’t know the meaning of.
Wrong place wrong time.
You’re vilified because you’re acting like a villain. People don’t want to debate your neckbeardedly presented well ahcktuallies while they’re fighting for the right to exist.
We don’t have this fight when it comes to other medical matters. Like if kids with cancer should get treatment even though chemo and surgery could have long-lasting repucussions. The alternative is they die. People who don’t get proper medical treatment die. Trans kids die of depression and suicide without treatment. Those are real things, there are real risks to not treating a medical condition. It’s not a matter up for public debate just because some dickwads are trying to distract everyone by making healthcare for a specific group of people political. It’s medical, we have facts and data that say trans people need healthcare to support their transition to live healthier longer lives. There are fucking doctors out there with years of practice who say yes, these kids need medical intervention. And here you are bitching that no one will debate you in a place where, again, people are fighting to exist. And you’re bringing up tired arguments because you gotta be that guy.
We have data on trans performance in sports and there is no clear advantage.
Besides, if you’re a world-class athlete, you already have a way different kind of body than most people. There are plenty of biological advantages that are celebrated in sports rather than weeded out. Want to start making sure everyone is the same height and weight for every sport, too? Same lung capacity? Reaction time? Born in the same country? Live at the same altitude? Same race? If you want to get advantages, there are clearer divisions along racial lines than trans status. No, I don’t advocate for segregation in sports because I’m not a goddamn monster of a person who can’t think for two seconds about why that’s idiotic.
Fuck off. Stop being a moron. Show some goddamn empathy.
How is anyone supposed to show empathy, let alone learn anything when even the slightest hint of wanting to have a conversation is met with this kind of reaction? I’m the villain? OK, but then you’re an extremist.
I made it clear in my comment what I support, and it was certainly not denying anyone’s right to exist. None of what I said supports the claim you made. What I pointed out is a major problem is exactly what you illustrate with your comment. It’s impossible to discuss anything when 2 sides are so entrenched and unwilling to debate. I get the urgency and gravity of what is happening right now, but for people like me, who consider themselves very sympathetic to the trans community, you’re making it very hard to help. It’s either support everything we say, or shut the f up. That’s never going to work.
And on the data you’re referring to around gender-affirming care, show me. Latest I heard, this is a very young field of study, and data, if any, is inconclusive. And yet here I am, supporting gender-affirming care, having to defend the position that please can we tread with care. Insanity!
As you (seem to) point out, trans people in sports is a different conversation. The science is clearer, but now we have a group of formerly (and frankly, still) marginalised people (women at birth, biologically) who fear unfair advantage. Much more political, philosophical even, a much harder debate. I empathise with both sides, how villainous of me.
So, showing empathy to you is hard. You reap what you sow.
Hi. I’m not sure what data she’s referring to that shows trans women have no athletic advantage in sports.
I’m trans and I disagree completely.
I believe the issue at hand is, and always has been, male puberty.
I don’t want people who went through male puberty physically competing against people who haven’t.
Male puberty gives an advantage that is not really possible to “undo” completely.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9331831/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10641525/
Also, you are not bad for asking questions, or sharing your assumptions. I welcome them.
You mean well. That’s what matters.
Thank you.
Not to be rude but this isn’t a meme
Meme purest over here.
It kinda is if you start with the premise that Trans people have an agenda other than please let me exist.
And it shouldn’t be political for people to have rights but here we are.
Protect the dolls!
