You’re being a little terse and I am thereby not sure exactly what you mean. Is what you’re saying that you what me to go dig up a clip where he’s talking about how cool it is that Platner continues to poll well with Mainers?
If you believe that what I just said and what you just said are different things, then our disagreement isn’t based on believing or disbelieving in a clip. Did we say different things?
I don’t want to fucking dig around for some clip that I hardly have on hand (and would probably be part of a 40-minute video in the form I could find it) when you may as well just be fucking with me if you disagree with the premise anyway. If you reject that the clip would be evidence, why should I spend a half hour or more going through stream footage so I can bring it back and you can just tell me literally the same thing you could right now? You can just dismiss me without wasting that much of my time, it’s okay.
Though I was literally just about to edit the comment to repeat what I already said in the comments I directed you to, which you surely by accident misrepresented, which is specifying that I don’t know what Hasan believes, I don’t know what his ideology is, I am simply identifying the nature of a particular line he took as relates this specific issue.
I’ll totally call him an opportunist, but that’s because it’s a pattern of behavior and not an ideology, and I don’t think anyone who seriously purports to be interested in Marxism can make an argument against his entryist bullshit being textbook opportunism.
If you’re gonna lop accusations of Strasserism against prominent pro-Palestinian leftist voices, then I don’t think it’s a big ask to back that claim up with something more than a vague intuition of “opportunism”
Am I not explaining myself clearly? Arguments aren’t just collections of empirical facts, they are also the relations of ideas. A conclusion can’t be proven simply from facts if there is a disagreement on the relations of ideas. With empirical facts themselves you can only have premises. If we agree that the sentiment that, and this is my paraphrasing, “It’s good for people to be willing to embrace economic populism coming from someone who had Totenkopf tattoo until like two weeks ago and doesn’t acknowledge the basic nature of the tattoo, much less the meaning of it, i.e. I’m glad that they don’t care if he could very easily be an unrepentant Nazi if he’ll make the trains run on time” is a Strasserist line, then I’ll go look for an example of the multiple times he’s said that shit. If you do not agree that that’s a Strasserist line, then our disagreement doesn’t hinge most proximately on if that’s what he said, it hinges on our interpretations of that sentiment.
The opportunism thing I mentioned is tangential, and it’s not a “vague intuition” (could you stop insulting me, by the way?), it’s because Hasan is very explicitly an entryist and has argued for it frequently in the past few weeks. Do you not remember him screaming at his chat over and over about how they’re ultras for believing that it’s not productive to run socialists in a capitalist party? Do you not remember his butchered exegesis of Lenin? Here’s a clip summarizing that issue from Socialism4All.
Where’s the clip?
You’re being a little terse and I am thereby not sure exactly what you mean. Is what you’re saying that you what me to go dig up a clip where he’s talking about how cool it is that Platner continues to poll well with Mainers?
I’m asking where is the clip that proves Hasan is a Strasserite?
If you believe that what I just said and what you just said are different things, then our disagreement isn’t based on believing or disbelieving in a clip. Did we say different things?
Huh? Purpleworm, just post the clip, you made a claim, I just want to see what you’re talking about firsthand
I don’t want to fucking dig around for some clip that I hardly have on hand (and would probably be part of a 40-minute video in the form I could find it) when you may as well just be fucking with me if you disagree with the premise anyway. If you reject that the clip would be evidence, why should I spend a half hour or more going through stream footage so I can bring it back and you can just tell me literally the same thing you could right now? You can just dismiss me without wasting that much of my time, it’s okay.
Though I was literally just about to edit the comment to repeat what I already said in the comments I directed you to, which you surely by accident misrepresented, which is specifying that I don’t know what Hasan believes, I don’t know what his ideology is, I am simply identifying the nature of a particular line he took as relates this specific issue.
I’ll totally call him an opportunist, but that’s because it’s a pattern of behavior and not an ideology, and I don’t think anyone who seriously purports to be interested in Marxism can make an argument against his entryist bullshit being textbook opportunism.
If you’re gonna lop accusations of Strasserism against prominent pro-Palestinian leftist voices, then I don’t think it’s a big ask to back that claim up with something more than a vague intuition of “opportunism”
Am I not explaining myself clearly? Arguments aren’t just collections of empirical facts, they are also the relations of ideas. A conclusion can’t be proven simply from facts if there is a disagreement on the relations of ideas. With empirical facts themselves you can only have premises. If we agree that the sentiment that, and this is my paraphrasing, “It’s good for people to be willing to embrace economic populism coming from someone who had Totenkopf tattoo until like two weeks ago and doesn’t acknowledge the basic nature of the tattoo, much less the meaning of it, i.e. I’m glad that they don’t care if he could very easily be an unrepentant Nazi if he’ll make the trains run on time” is a Strasserist line, then I’ll go look for an example of the multiple times he’s said that shit. If you do not agree that that’s a Strasserist line, then our disagreement doesn’t hinge most proximately on if that’s what he said, it hinges on our interpretations of that sentiment.
The opportunism thing I mentioned is tangential, and it’s not a “vague intuition” (could you stop insulting me, by the way?), it’s because Hasan is very explicitly an entryist and has argued for it frequently in the past few weeks. Do you not remember him screaming at his chat over and over about how they’re ultras for believing that it’s not productive to run socialists in a capitalist party? Do you not remember his butchered exegesis of Lenin? Here’s a clip summarizing that issue from Socialism4All.
Translation: you can’t back up your claim
Love the idea of reading the streamer tea leaves to smear pro-Palestinian voices, super cool habit you got there
Typing out this bizarre ass post is a lot more work than digging up a clip
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: