We’re seeing the SDF being thrown out like the US puppet that it is. Just another example of the Kurdish political factions siding with Imperialists, only to be stabbed in the back. Who could have predicted this? (Every ML, Shiite, and anyone with an understanding of geopolitics)
After Rojava is killed I’m convinced that Jolani is going to turn around and finally begin the multipronged assault on Hezboallah. We are going to see Jolani continue to butcher Syrian minorities, something all of us “Assadists” said would happen if Bashar fell.
The PKK essentially sold out the Kurdish movement for the SDF, and they won’t even get the crumbs. Israel will of course steal more Syrian land without any pushback from the terrorist army, but it’s fine I guess becuase we got to see the failure that was “Democrat Confederalism”.
Libertarian “socialists” and anarchists have supported Rojava as some examples of their socialism, and what do they have to show for it? A sectarian takfeeri state that’s going to ethnically cleanse everyone involved in their expirement. They never broke with the US, becuase they needed “security”. Well where is that security now fuckwits?!
Occupied a country on behalf of the imperialists for 10 years. Stole their oil, their wheat, their gas, all on the behalf of the US, in order to be allowed to exist. And now after a decade, as soon as Bashar was taken out, what happened? Oh, Rojava is disintegrating a year later.
WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THIS?!
And you know what boils my blood even more? I’m almost sure that the SDF have been helping to destabilize Kurdish areas in Iran. It really must be a sisyphusian existence to live as a Kurd who fights on behalf of the US. To put your lives and blood on the line for a doomed political project on the vague promise of the world’s most untrustworthy gangsters.
They will continue to run themselves ragged, trying to topple every enemy of the US until there’s nothing but shattered ethnostates easy for Israel to gobble up.
This is probably my most reactionary opinion, but I hope to NEVER see Kurdistan on the map of West Asia, unless it’s only made up of Turkish territory. I shall never forgive the broader Kurdistan political movement for their actions in both of my parents homelands. I hope Iraqi Kurdistan is eventually betrayed by the US like every other time, and it’s leaders reap what they’ve sown.
For me, the answer to the Kurdish National Question, is a resounding NO. Kurdistan has almost soley been used by the imperialists to sow discord in West Asia. If a nation can only exist through service to imperialism, then that nation will be nothing more than a vessel for imperialism.
Kurdistan is a warning to any national liberation movement that doesn’t adopt total anti-imperialism: the imperialists will not help you, they will use you and toss you aside when you’re no longer useful. The Assyrians and Armenians already learned this the hard way. I fully expect a genocide of Kurds to follow the collapse of Rojava.
Unfortunately i have to agree with you, history has proved the skeptics of Rojava were right. National liberation cannot be achieved by siding with imperialism and stabbing every other group of people around you in the back.
The one thing i will say is that Hezbollah is more resilient than most people think. They were not defeated by a US backed full scale Zionist invasion, and they will not be defeated by some piece of shit Al-Qaeda Ziopuppets.
I do not believe that Hezboallah will be defeated, but I am worried for the death and destruction that the imperialists will bring upon the Lebanese.
This kind of joint assualt would never have been possible had the Kurds not spent the last decade strangling Syria.
The Levant is being soaked in blood and and the second largest portion of the blame falls upon Rojava. Türkiya still takes the plurality, but had tge North not been occupied then the dire economic conditions wouldn’t have broken Syria.
Türkiya still takes the plurality
I feel like the Saudis and UAE also played a major role, but yeah.
It also doesn’t help that currently the Zionists are also using Kurds from Iraq and Syria to infiltrate into Iran, smuggle weapons and cause trouble there.
In principle i am sympathetic to the Kurdish cause, especially in Turkey, but we can’t let idealism blind us. We have to judge things by how they manifest in reality not how we wish they would in a perfect world.
And in practice, unfortunately, the (false) promise of national liberation is sometimes used as a tool for imperialism to destabilize, divide and conquer. See imperialist support for Ukrainian nationalism, Baltic nationalism, Chechen separatism, Uyghur separatism, etc.
Stole their oil, their wheat, their gas, all on the behalf of the US, in order to be allowed to exist. And now after a decade, as soon as Bashar was taken out, what happened? Oh, Rojava is disintegrating a year later.
You are completely right about this. I also investigated about the SDF and shared some of my findings here -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6488415
Adding to what you also mentioned, there were plenty of evidence that the US never even cared about the Kurds:
Saw some post on Leftypol that was railing against Marxism-Leninism and ‘Authoritarian Socialism’, praising Libertarian Socialist movements- and included, as examples, Rojava and Zaptistas as successful movements (even saying they were much more successful than the Soviet Union, China, etc). Though I give the Zaptistas slightly more credit than the Rojava. Wonder how they feel now, lol. If I find it again, I’ll screenshot it and edit it onto my post, it was bizarre.
Worth noting that the Zaptistas are tired of that bullshit. They outright issued a statement explaing how they are not “libertarian socialist”, anarchist, communist or any kind of socialist. They have supporters and members of those political orientations, but the movement as a whole is not.
I did not know about that, I always knew they were not Marxist-Leninist, of course; but I always assumed they were adjacent in some form or another- even if often described (by others) as Libertarian Socialists. Do you have any link to this statement? Spanish is fine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090813155006/http://greenanarchy.info/etc/ezln_response.htm
I believe this is it, I did not find anything in Spanish.
We’ve had users uncritically defend the SDF before because they were infatuated with the propaganda chicks before lol, fortunately thry got banned.
Domenico Losurdo talks extensively about the nuances of global class struggle and how seemingly liberation struggles can be exploited by imperialist powers for reactionary causes, and viceversa how seemingly reactionary movements can be found fighting for a progressive cause, the case of Syria is a perfect example of this.
Someone on the TankieDeprogram Subreddit had the gall to tell me that the SDF “gave” oil to Assad and it was wrong to call it theft becuase the SDF liberated it on their own, so “of course they used it for their own interest.”
Considering the act of Rojavas “giving” oil to Syria is akin to Israel “giving” land to Palestine, along with how they ignored the fact that Syrian oil production dropped by 90%, I was, to put it mildly, a little livid about still seeing this blind support.
These people call Hafez Assad genocidal and a traitor to the Palestinian cause, WHILE LITERALLY OCCUPYING A COUNTRY ON BEHALF OF THE US! Like how do you let your shitty little expirement off the hook when they prohibit a state fighting the US from accessing 9/10ths of their most valuable economic resource, and then turn around and act like you’re the true arbiter of justice?!
It’s mind boggling. Luckily, I managed to find an outlet in the same subreddit by jotting down what kinds of national liberation struggles Marxists should support in another thread. Re-reading the National Question section of Foundations of Leninism definitely made me feel like I’m less crazy for applying an extremely basic Marxist analysis.
Also seeing how some people have come out saying, “Well would you rather Jolani was there now? We should support Rojava now against HTS” and I’m sitting here just losing my mind becuase how the fuck have you nor learned thus yet?! Favoring one imperialist puppet over the other is not going to bring about a threat to imperialism, SINCE THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME MASTERS!
It’s nonsensical! It’s like saying to support the UAE against Israel, or Türkiya against Suadi Arabia. They’ll fear-monger about a massacre against Kurds if the SDF falls as if WE DIDN’T PREDICT THAT WOULD HAPPEN 10 YEARS AGO!
Mind numbing levels of delusional support. The Kurds did nothing when 1000s of Alawites being butchered in Latakia. They did nothing when Sweida was being soaked in blood. They had nothing to contribute when Israel stole Syrian land, or when Jolani abandoned the Golan Heights. Yet somehow they’re to be supported against Jolani? A prime opportunity to fight in favor of Syrian Federalism goes out the window.
Rojava has had nothing to show for their imperial bootlicking after 10 years. 10 years of acting like they needed to do this and they weren’t a smidgen closer to their goal once. That’s a political project that’s doomed to fail even if it wasn’t just a US puppet.
Rojava was bad to Assyrians and helped the US steal Syrian oil. Not sure what anarchists ever saw in them.
Our local anarchist group keeps supporting them to to point of joining them against Iran at protests in the city lol
This image pretty much
Anarchist, liberal, what’s the difference really lol
May I have some sources ln the Assyrian claim? I’ve heard a little about the Yazidi discrimination but not about Assyrians.
