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Explanation: When Eisenhower, commander of the Allied Forces in WW2, came across the horror of the death camps of the Nazis, he knew exactly what to do. He took great care to meticulously document everything that was found, including with extensive video and photographic evidence, inviting American media and Congress members to come to see the horror firsthand to ensure that it would not be doubted or forgotten.
“In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to ‘propaganda.'”
- Ike himself
Unfortunately, Holocaust deniers have emerged anyway.
are there “legit” deniers, or are they just cosplaying as assholes? I don’t think I have come across them in meatspace, and not saying they don’t exist. But I always thought of them like flat earth dicks. When pressed they admit it’s just for the “joy” of being a piece of shit.
Unfortunately, I’ve had run-ins with legitimate shitheads of this variety. At least some are sincere.
ugh. sorry to hear that.
For decent folks that’s a distinction without a difference. Or at least it can be treated as one. I don’t give a fuck if someone is genuinely a holocaust denier, or if they’re just being “edgy,” either way they’re a piece of shit.
The only way to satisfy your curiosity is to go down an extremely depressing rabbit hole. Modern politics makes my explanation more difficult to get across without risking a ton of other baggage, but if we can set that aside for just a moment: A depressing amount of people across history are very willing to believe the most stupid, heinous shit about and around the Jewish people.
Unfortunately extensive documentation will not work anymore. We live in an era of live steamed genocides and anyone can look up videos of state officers murdering people in the streets without repercussions and there are still people who cheer them on.
The extensive documentation did little to entrench the understanding that the Holocaust was deplorable, and we ended up, not only with Holocaust deniers, but with those that thought it would have been awesome if it were real.
Pictures of evil are not enough. Words denouncing evil are not enough. Witnessing evil come down upon your neighbors is not enough. Nothing else is enough if those who would commit evil upon others, those who would ignore the necessary social discipline of respect, those who would foster bigotry and intolerance are left to continue.
Devoid of consequence for hate filled destruction it will continue, and the only way to stop it is not through documentation, but active societal resistance.
Holocaust deniers are like conspiracy theorists. Only doing it to be contrarian and get attention. They are ginormous pieces of shit, like nick Fuentes and Alex jones
Enormous piece of shit, certainly. Just to be contrarian? I’m not convinced. Like when Alex Jones looked like he might actually get out of having Infowars shut down, when all he had to do was play the usual defamation game of “I didn’t mean it literally, and you can’t prove that I did”, but taking the stand and just utterly destroying his own case by being a lunatic.
He also warned us about the military industrial complex… which… he himself basically started.
Definitely predates him significantly. One of the objections to one of the early Hague conventions on poison gas around ~1900 by the American ambassador was that, while the US did not claim that chemical weapons were desirable to use for its own military, we retained the right to produce chemical weapons to sell to others.
He did let the leash off the CIA though, which was… not a good move.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer
is a book that helped shape Eisenhower’s opinions about the future.
Eisenhower, like all US Presidents, would be looking up from below not down from above.
OK buddy
It would be like saying Zhukov is in hell. I mean, fuck, no one is going to claim that they’re blameless, but the two men shared a commonality in being men of essentially good character, within the constraints of the prejudices of their time and upbringing, who opposed the worst excesses of their time and were all-in on fighting the Nazis during WW2.
Also, Ike once gave Zhukov some fishing tackle, which Zhukov highly valued for the rest of his life, as both men enjoyed fishing.
Tell that to the Guatemalans who lost tens or hundreds of thousands of loved ones in a brutal civil war brought on by the coup d’état approved by Eisenhower, which evolved into a Mayan fucking genocide that the US continued to back. All this partially because the old democratically elected regime was disliked by United Fruit Co, an American company.
Yeah rest in piss tbh.
Lest we completely ignore
