This post from a defense news website that I have read many articles on that is fairly straight forward and technical in its descriptions of military topics was removed because Jordan Lund saw āBlogā in the title and didnāt bother to read any farther?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42317112
https://defence-blog.com/israeli-firm-signs-deal-to-test-black-eagle-50e-drone-in-u-s/
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Does this sound like a blog about frivolous opinions that would bring down the quality of posts on a politics community? Does this pass the smell test to you?
I would think this was just another mistake, but Jordan Lund has a pattern of behavior around this topic that I find extremely problematic, and I think it was one of the reasons he was removed as a mod at Lemmy.World.
https://lemmy.world/post/36621226
See this post where Jordan Lund removes a post from Dropsite News a highly regarded news source that is directly referenced by many mainstream news outlets and includes among other stalwart journalists, Ryan Grim.
https://lemmy.world/post/41068936
https://www.dropsitenews.com/about
https://www.unftr.com/blog/progressive-spotlight-ryan-grim
Grimās talent is in identifying stories that are under-reported or contradict the supposed ideals of America. Among the many themes he interrogates is the United Statesā public position on human rights and democracy. Grimās recent reporting on the United Statesā role in effectively toppling the democratically elected government of Imran Khan has been first class, and he often brings those questions to U.S. State Department press conferences, where his back-and-forth with official government spokespeople can be captured for all to witness.
And while thereās an ever-growing roster of progressive journalists performing great workāwhether on war, civil liberties, or economicsāGrim is the rare reporter on the left who the establishment respects. While some may view that as a shortcoming, Grimās penchant for relationship building, combined with a tenacious desire to get to the truth, has served himāand the rest of usāwell.
Also
https://sopuli.xyz/post/19888013
https://lemmy.world/post/36976275
https://lemmy.world/post/26943875
https://lemmy.world/post/27393569
https://lemmy.world/post/36493647
I am extremely disappointed to say the least from having such a worrying and bad experience on such a sensitive timely political topic right after I had a good experience with the overall Lemmy.World instance mods from my previous post.
sigh This is a problem.
edit How do I best escalate this to an instance admin issue at Lemmy.World?
PTB
It makes total sense for an online newspaper to potentially call itself āblog.ā Itās parallel to print newspapers being called ājournals.ā Any cursory glance at the source would show itās not a literal blog, just as any cursory glance at The Wall Street Journal would show itās not a literal journal.
The very least the mod couldāve done was actually check the link before deciding to remove it.
This is a mod that removes dropsitenews.com for having substack in the footer. I donāt like how they picked/use substack platform but itās definitely not a blog
All you had to say was āJordan Lundā. Heās well known in this community. Heās done this before.
I know, I partially made this post as a collation of the most obvious stuff because the more research I did the more worrying this got for me.
Itās his own incoherent bias, he shouldnāt be mod of any news community imo
And world admins seem to be fine with it. Probably because heās willing to do so much free work
Or Jordan is an .world admin alt account.
Would think that if he wasnāt so proud of being a reddit mod AND used their own name for the accountā¦
This is whatās wrong with the a lot of threaded discussion platforms, communities are tied to the moderation and having a disagreement with them means having to leave a community for another one instead of just being able to leave whatās actually at issue, the moderation. Imagine if trying to email someone required you to use a different email provider to do so, each time limiting whom you could include in the chain.
Per your edit. Lemmy.world instance admins know and donāt care. Well they care enough to strip JL of a pointless title but not enough to actually do anything about him or his actions as a mod or user.
The LW staff putting the responsibility on the other mods to remove him was quite something.
Just wish that was surprising
PTB. Those main comms on world ban far more content types than they allow.
PTB, itās jordanlund, that wasnāt unexpected.
Classic jordanlund. PTB
Jordan lives in last century regarding what journalism is and how it occurs. They come from a previous generation regarding editorial and content standards, and maybe the rule set was good for the period of 2005-2015, they effectively have ossified and refused to adapt to a continuously changing media landscape. Major changes happened from 1995-2005 and their content standards reflect that. However, its clear that is published anything on a platform too young to vote, isnāt journalism according to Lund.
The reality is that things have changed massively in the previous 40 years of journalism, and you can no longer discount reporting, journalism, or analysis based on its source or format or platform. Dropsite news, Zeteo, etc. They have editorial boards. They have journalistic standards. They issue corrections. Likewise, youtube is as valid a platform as the NYT when it comes to journalistic content. The idea that the only valid form of content for political discussion needs to be in a form which existed before 2005 is ridiculous.
I wish it was that innocent but I see a clear pattern of censorship of criticism of Zionism and Israel and a pattern of burying news about the Palestinian Genocide. To ignore that in your framing is at best naive.
This isnāt a joke, this isnāt abstract, the Palestinian Genocide is roaring along as we speak, choices have consequences.
Yeah but they function together. The prohibition of alternative media essentially limits posts to hegemonic media which overwhelmingly supports genocide, etc. (And vice verse probably.)
Donāt confuse innocence for journalism & news. Like others said š§µ, Land in the Jordan uses an archaic standard to rubric current news from ancient journalistic standards. Fascism has always thrived on those standards being compromised, while gaslighting civilian documents of ongoing genocides.
Weblogs allow both journalists and civilians to check the integrity of documents as they occur live, instead of having institutions arbitrate what is and is not the verifiable facts.
Zionists hate this precisely because they want to control narratives. And we shouldnāt allow them the benefits to digressively victimize us.
Itās .world. Donāt expect logic. Youād be better off to block them and start your own communities. .world is the reddit of Lemmy. lol
Not having a go at the validity of your source and I would 100% allow the post on !world@quokk.au, but damn MBFC is such a joke.
Overall, we rate Defence Blog as Least Biased due to its focus on [ā¦] pro-NATO alignment
āItās least biased because it has a biasā imagine taking the time to write something so contradictory and asserting yourself as an authority on media bias.
MBFC bot people got real aggressive when you suggested it was inaccurate or unhelpful.
Itās purpose though is relevant though: it exists to provide that exact dynamic: unbiased bias. The bread and butter of most political trolls.
Seconding !world@quokk.au
I shared it on my community apologiafreenews@piefed.social
Thank you
Hereās mine youāre all welcome anytime my dear friend https://sopuli.xyz/c/luxmandiscussions
In this case I believe the mod is enforcing an, albiet stupid, rule. I agree, itās a high quality publication that shouldnāt be removed, but I get seeing the title and making a snap decision.
I posted the article to !Independent_Media@lemmy.today to help get it out there.
I sent MBFC an e-mail asking why they consider a pro-NATO alignment to be unbiased as well.
Thank you for this!
Yeah I wouldnāt be upset about that if when I did some research I didnāt find that Jordan Lund has a well documented extremely concerning pattern of silencing Palestinian voices and criticism of Israel. Ok a mod made a snap decision and it was wrong, that isnāt really a problem in isolation but what is a problem is this isnāt in isolation and it is in regards to a vitally important political topic for the US and the entire world. When you search for Jordan Lund you will find post after post talking about being censored for concerning or frivolous reasons as others have abundantly pointed out on this thread.
Fuck antisemitism, but those are bombs from my damn country being dropped on Palestinians, I have a right to talk about it, to make a stink about it, and to raise awareness about it. Similarly Lemmy.World has a RESPONSIBILITY to not just wave their hands and say āI donāt like talking about this canāt we all just be friends!ā.
Below use of āyouā is meant generally, I realize I may have accidentally made it look like this was all meant in response to Wren, I did not intend that.
If you do not know how to handle this situation and feel like you are out of your depth of understanding on the Palestinian Genocide to the point where you realllllly canāt see how toxic Jordan Lundās world views are and donāt know what to do because you like sharing memes with Jordan on Discord/Matrix but also there are all these angry shrill people yelling about Palestine that donāt seem to like him, you should not be in a position of power over the largest political community on the Fediverse. Grow up and take an adult responsibility over understanding the world you inhabit and impact, this is one of the most serious human rights violations in our lifetime and it is unfolding as we speak even still.
This is a not a time where innocently banning posts around this topic because you were going too fast can really be considered an innocent mistake, this is far too meaningful and impactful of a discussion and I am sorry but I just donāt see any lighthearted instance mod thing happening here where all Jordan Lund did was see the word āBlogā.
Jordan Lund clearly used it as an excuse to ban an article he did not like, consciously or subconsciously I donāt really care, the evidence doesnāt point in the way of this being a non-political accident regardless.
When people in the future look back and ask what Jordan was doing during the Palestinian Genocide, he will only be able to say he spent all of his time cynically calling into the question the motivations of people who were scared, emotionally impacted and alarmed by the mass murder of innocent children. He will only be able to say that he didnāt believe it, he thought people were whining about it too much. He will not be able to say there was no way he could have known the violence was as real and as horrifying as everyone was saying it was, particularly because he has repeatedly participated in silencing discussion about it as a mod.
Do you think it is a good idea to be Jordan Lundās friend? Do you think it is good for your soul? Can you harmlessly interface with someone who uses their position in such a toxic way?
edited
I wonāt defend Jordan Lund or argue otherwise. If you can get in contact with an admin and make some headway on holding him and them accountable, I support you.
Iāve argued with him before about his moderation style. I donāt agree with how or why he makes the decisions he does. He strikes me as someone who tells himself heās unbiased while holding considerable bias.
For now, Iām just doing what I can.
edit: what. How in the hell does this make me Jordan Lundās friend?
Any reason to not use !world@quokk.au ?
Because itās my community and I have qualms with piefed.
Wat?
Because their main mod clearly have a lot more political bias, they are hiding their username with a completely different one (not sure why, their original username sounds a lot more appropriate), they are managing way too many communities. Any reason you are pushing them?
Always helps to do a rudimentary check of whose community / instance you are switching over to, it just involves checking out their profile, modlog, and post & comment history.
Mostly because it is one of the most active alternative communities on that topic
!globalnews@lemmy.zip is another one, but the main poster also mods a few communities, so you might not like it either
Well, at this point, I donāt think this can be called PTB.
Not because it isnāt a poor decision, it was.
But because thatās a long standing policy of the c/ that isnāt going to change, and has been debated to death already.
Regardless of any opinions about the policy, or individual removals, JL is pretty consistent in being zero tolerance with anything that smacks of blogging. That isnāt a power trip, itās just a really persnickity rule.
Since no other action was taken, it canāt be overreacting either. Mods gotta mod. The point of them being there is to keep a community on a given path, whether we agree with that path or not. It only becomes PTB when thereās something other than basic curation going on. And thatās what this is.
Fwiw, I donāt agree with the totality of the rule, and disagree with this specific post actually breaking it, but it aināt my c/ to curate. I suspect, like you, that the presence of blog in the url is the cause of that decision. That being said, blog spam disguised as news is a problem, and having to track down every damn site individually is beyond what itās worth to have the posts there.
I dunno, itās difficult to say much more without just debating the validity of the site, which isnāt useful here, so I avoid doing so whenever possible.
I guess to sum up, neither YDI or PTB, just a poor mod decision
Jordan permabanned me from c/politics. Maybe I deserved a ban, but thatās besides the point.
The dude gets cancer. I send him well wishes and ask him if he would consider changing my permaban to a temp ban. Crickets.
For a dude who just got literal cancer after fairly cancerous mod behaviour for years, I donāt think his penny is dropping.
Itās really sad people like that wield that much power over a platform thatās struggling to get airborne.
On the plus side, he semi-owns .world communities, so at least heās helping to bleed the oversized communities.
PTB
I did not know about the cancer and that genuinely sucks, it gives me some context at least I guess.
Itās wild how much *better world politics comm was while he was away
