Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.

Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.

What a joke.

I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.

For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206

https://www.alai.info/en/corporate-participation-and-complicity-in-the-genocide-against-the-palestinian/

The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919

https://dawnmena.org/destroying-al-shifa-hospital-robin-andersens-the-complicity-lens-us-media-coverage-of-israels-genocide-in-gaza/

The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon

The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza

The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.

Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.

Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)

But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.

It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.

  • Mehdi Hasan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza

edit personal DM from goat taunting me for the other thread being locked before I could fully explain myself and get a solid answer from Lemmy World.

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    Dude I love watching a turbo dickhead succumb to their ego and make enemies of people who otherwise would have no reason to give a shit, it’s genuinely so satisfying

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        Blocking .world and putting our collective energy into communities elsewhere is the only real option. I took the plunge months ago and I have plenty of stuff to read and plenty of people to chat with. It just wasn’t worth it to me to continue tolerating the vexatious stupidity and poor behavior just for a handful of communities that weren’t yet (at the time) duplicated elsewhere.

        Every time anyone from outside .world participates in a .world community, they are helping to entrench the bullshit. We need to be doing the opposite.

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      Cool so when they demanded I put my thoughts there and I was worried about getting shut down halfway through I was right. They would have absolutely locked the thread once they were starting to look bad. Goes to show how hollow all of this is for them.

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    Nobody tends to mind mod / admin biases until it affects them personally, me included. Nobody wants to change it, it just keeps getting shifted to “oh, you can’t rely on that guy? then move over to this community, you can totally rely on this other guy”.

    Don’t you guys realize mods and admins are better and smarter than you guys? That’s why you shouldn’t have access to see the votes like they can, that’s why it’s you who needs to leave a community instead of just being able to opt to different moderation, that’s why they can call you out for behaving a certain way and then ignore it when people who support their stance do it.

    News and politics tends to attract opinionated participation and the people who want to manipulate or constrain them to their own biases get attracted to moderating those communities. My advice is to ignore the masks people put on and look at how, how many, and under what biases they are actually moderating under.

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    Insanity of saying the US fueled, funded, and permitted (with the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA even going so far as to say he will help Israel “do what they need to do”) genocide in Gaza isn’t US politics aside, why the fuck would you name your com “politics” and not allow politics from the hundreds of other countries?

    Name your damn com US politics then, and maybe learn about the impacts of US foreign policy and recognize that the imperial hegemonic effects of the USs actions actually are US politics.

    JFC that’s a stupid com.

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      It honestly hurts my brain and I would be more inclined to laugh about it if it didn’t hurt my heart so badly to see discussion of the Palestinian Genocide so clearly silenced by people like Jordan Lund.

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            I temp banned you for three days after you repeatedly failed to follow the clear guidelines I gave you.

            When the ban expires, you’re welcome to post US Politics articles back in Politics as you did here (excellent post BTW):

            https://lemmy.world/post/44253357

            If you insist on posting “Israel bad!” to a community specifically for US Politics, you will get banned again.

            Israel / Gaza = Goes in !world@lemmy.world

            Things actually involving US Politics goes in Politics.

            This is why separate communities exist.

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              If you insist on posting “Israel bad!” to a community specifically for US Politics, you will get banned again.

              Please elaborate on what precisely you mean by “Israel bad!”? Do you mean low effort articles that claim Israel is bad for intellectually lazy reasons? Have I posted those? If so which ones? What evidence do you have of those articles having baseless, sloppy criticisms of the politics at hand here?

              Israel / Gaza = Goes in !world@lemmy.world

              How does this make sense? Defend your position as moderator of a community where you exclude Israel/Gaza as a political topic but you do not exclude discussion of any other international issue that has direct, intimate relevance to the US along countless dimensions?

              I temp banned you for three days after you repeatedly failed to follow the clear guidelines I gave you.

              Ok, lets make a bet, how many US made bombs do you think Israel will drop from US trained fighter pilots flying US jets that refueled on US made tanker aircraft on innocent children in the next 3 days while I wait to post political articles about it? 20? 30? I will say 35 as my guess, what do you guess?

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                Politics is specifically stated to be for US Politics.

                Israel bombing a hospital in Gaza is NOT US Politics. Israel is not the United States.

                No US Politician told Israel to bomb a hospital. There was no vote in the House or Senate to authorize bombing hospitals.

                Yes, what Israel is doing are war crimes, but they are outside the sphere of US Politics.

                Israel being a bad actor is welcome in !world@lemmy.world

                Unless there is a specific connection to US Political leaders or Policy (as there was in the post that was NOT removed), it doesn’t belong in !politics@lemmy.world

                I have this same conversation when people post internal US News to World as well. World is a US news free zone. Otherwise it would be “Trump does stupid shit” top to bottom.

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                  So let me get this straight so I can laugh harder at your absurd attempts to rationalize your innate emotional desire not to see reality for how it is, if Israel drops a 2000 pound bomb US made bomb on a children’s school in Gaza and kills 15 children, and then US politicians run cover for Israel stopping international agencies that could hold Israel accountable from being able to do so… you don’t think that is relevant to US politics?

                  The US is absolutely instrumental along every dimension in the Palestinian Genocide, material, monetary, political, cultural… in every respect the US is relevant. if you cannot grasp that you should not be moderating a Politics community, period, full stop. Having you in charge of a Politics community is tantamount to having a child run a Liquor store unsupervised, you have no clue what you are doing and frankly it is dangerous.

                  As a final note, in the interests of shitting on anti-semitism because let me make clear I cannot stand anti-semites they piss the hell out of me, fuck people who lazily blame the consequences of their choices on jews and call it a day… it is necessary to discuss how Israel is a colonial imperialist outpost of the US and reflects many of the same patterns the US has in order to diffuse anti-semitic narratives that Israel’s behavior has something to do with being jewish and evil, and nothing to do with being a vassal state of a colonial empire that can do things the colonial empire/suzerain can’t get away with doing themselves.

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                  Israel bombing a hospital in Gaza is NOT US Politics. Israel is not the United States.

                  Bullshit.

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                Somehow it effected the election, but also isn’t important enough to bother with upholding international law.

                The enemy is too strong and too weak.

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                They CAN be political issues, notably AIPAC interference in US elections, but the removed articles has ZERO connection to US Politics which is the stated purpose of !politics@lemmy.world

                Please feel free to review the removed articles, note how none of them mention any connection to US Politics, Policy, or Politicians.

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                  Idk, seems like an article discussing US media coverage of a US political issue is pretty definitionally about US politics

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                  There’s always an excuse to actively censor anything or anyone who makes every centrist’s god netanyahu look bad.

                  Always.

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              Hi Jordan. Nice to see your imminent death experience prompted you to reflect on some of your opinions and actions.

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                  Nah, just when a horrible human being uses a transparently stupid and incorrect justification to promote his own bias in obvious bad faith.

                  We have the president we do now BECAUSE of the Gaza genocide. It is explicitly US News / Politics.

                  You’re a bad person.

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              Israel / Gaza

              That would make some sense if USA and majority of congress people weren’t either supporting Israel in their genocide or just in supplying weapons and funds

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                Nobody supports the genocide, well, maybe Trump who wants the waterfront property.

                The majority support Israel as a nation who continues to abuse that support, but the abuse is on the Israeli side, not the American side.

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                  Josh Shapiro, John fetterman, Lindsay Graham, Mike Huckabee…

                  the list is almost endless. you don’t seem to know anything about this issue. you probably aren’t qualified to moderate a politics community.

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              I endorse this comment.

              Yes, the !politics@lemmy.world community followed the convention from Reddit. If you want to post Israel bad in a US politics community, relate it more closely to US politics. Polling about elections, AIPAC donations, votes or movement on a particular bill are examples. What exactly is wrong with posting in !world@lemmy.world or !globalpolitics@lemmy.world or wherever else you want?

              The sources thing is also reasonable. May not be perfect, sure, but you’re welcome to moderate your own community.

              There certainly aren’t enough current issues to replace/remove a moderator, especially one who has done so much unappreciated work for Lemmy and his communities.

              This whole post seems like a harassment campaign.

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                It’s not harassment when the mod is a known ptb. It’s just that most instances actually respond in good faith to criticism. Whereas LW just doubles down every single time on behalf of the ptb mod.

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                  Whereas LW just doubles down every single time on behalf of the ptb mod.

                  Like locking the thread where people questioned and documented his long history! “But he’s reformed and learned.”

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                  Oh? You’ve branded him and it’s permanent?

                  He did some shitty things in the past. From what I can tell he’s reformed and learned from them.

                  This isn’t that. This is people leveraging that lingering sentiment. For what purpose?

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                The fascinating thing to me is they STILL haven’t re-posted the removed stories to the communities where they are appropriate and welcome.

                Almost… almost like they would rather stir up drama than promote the articles. 🤔

                For each of the removed articles they were told where they could post them.

                Someone posting in good faith would go “Oh, ok, sorry…” and put it up where it goes. I have that all the time when I remove self posts and go “Dude, !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world is over there…”

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          • /politics has several explicitly defined rules. Which one states only US politics are accepted?
          • Why would a com called /politics not allow discussions about politics?
          • If the goal is to restrict posts to us politics, why aren’t you using a com like /us_politics?
          • If the goal is to restrict posts to US politics, why don’t the impacts of US foreign policy or reports on domestic coverage of US aided foreign wars not count as pertaining to the US?
          • US taxes are paying for Israeli bombs used to genocide Palestinians. How is that not related to US politics?
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            It’s literally the first line on the sidebar:

            • If the goal is to restrict posts to us politics, why aren’t you using a com like /us_politics?

            Good question, the community was set up before I was brought on board, I can’t say why they set it up that way, simply that it is.

            • If the goal is to restrict posts to US politics, why don’t the impacts of US foreign policy or reports on domestic coverage of US aided foreign wars not count as pertaining to the US?

            Unless the news article specifically points to US policy or political action, it doesn’t belong in Politics. This isn’t six degrees of separation.

            World exists for non-us World news.

            • US taxes are paying for Israeli bombs used to genocide Palestinians. How is that not related to US politics?

            Because no US politician or policy authorizes the genocide. That’s an Israeli war crime. The US provided funding for legitimate defense, not genocide.

            You can see what they THINK they were funding through sites like this:

            https://www.ajc.org/news/what-every-american-should-know-about-us-aid-to-israel

            Now, you and I both know Israel isn’t ACTUALLY using the funding for that, but that’s on Israel.

            As I said in another post, the funding was done in good faith, Israel is using it in bad faith.

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              No it’s on the USA being lying liars. And calling it out should very well be US Politics, and allowed. Unless you know, this is a psyop server.

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              Because no US politician or policy authorizes the genocide. That’s an Israeli war crime. The US provided funding for legitimate defense, not genocide.

              Weird, considering a majority of the are fully okay in supporting it. Hell even Kamala fully embraced it to not hurt Biden

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              It’s literally the first line on the sidebar:

              And the second line is the start of the rules. If you’re gonna treat it as a rule you’re banning people over maybe you should make it a rule–cause right now a plain reading indicates it’s not.

              The community was set up before I was brought on board

              And you’re there now, presumably with some modicum of influence (at least enough to suggest that the stupid naming scheme is stupid).

              It’s not 6 degrees of separation

              I agree. It’s more like 1 degree of separation:

              1. US gives bombs to Israel after genocide started

              All the other bullshit about “good faith” (something you’ve adequately demonstrated in this thread you lack all understanding of)

              A little more than a year after the genocide started the US was still supplying arms. If it’s not US foreign policy to fund this genocide why is the US continuing to fund this genocide? If it’s not US foreign policy why does the US back Israel in the genocide case at the ICJ? If it’s not US foreign policy why did the US vote against the UN’s Gaza ceasefire resolution?

              It seems that the people who are responsible for carrying out the US’s foreign policy initiatives as pertinent to the Gaza genocide keep facilitating the genocide, almost like the US is culpable in executing the genocide and that the US backed genocide actually has something to do with the US.

              I recognize that you seem to get off in wielding power to the extent that your lust necessarily prevents you from having a grasp on causality were it to change your mind, but your artiface does not actually change reality. You are wrong. The US is involved in the genocide of the Gazan people and therefore the genocide of the Gazan people is relevant to US politics.


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                It doesn’t need to be a rule, read the message placed in removed posts:

                “And true to their purpose”

                The purpose of !politics@lemmy.world is explicitly stated - US Politics.

                If it’s not the US, or it’s not politics, it will be removed and re-directed to where it IS appropriate, in this case !world@lemmy.world

                Squirrel chose to double down rather than accept moderation and continued to make off topic posts. Making off topic posts repeatedly, when warned, got them the temp ban (2 days left).

                We’ll see if they can behave when the ban expires, I am not hopeful in that regard, but they DID make one post actually relevant to US Politics which was allowed to stand.

                https://sopuli.xyz/post/42580966

                “US Democratic lawmakers have introduced a bill…”

                That’s the very definition of US politics and is welcome.

                Israel attacking Lebanon goes in !world@lemmy.world

                US Media falling down on the job goes in !world@lemmy.world or !news@lemmy.world

                Corporations being evil goes in !world@lemmy.world or !news@lemmy.world

                Now, the REAL question…

                Instead of abiding by the rules of the community and posting the stories where they would be relevant, why did Squirrel choose to fight a battle they cannot win? 🤔

                They STILL haven’t re-posted them. I guess they are more concerned with Lemmy drama.

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                  They merely can’t win because of an imbalance of power. Like the US backed genocide in Gaza.

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    Jordan Lund is a zionist propogandist who casually abuses people on the site with his mod authority for his own political bias. Unless he’s literally hosting lemmy.world himself, someone has some explaining to do around why that absolute shitbag of a human being is a mod on so many threads. He needs to be removed and banned.

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              You mean the social credit score that makes it so if liberals disagree with you that you’re shadow banned?

              Or the obfuscation of what’s allowed because it scans all images uploaded?

              Or any of the horrid things Rimu does because he’s never blamed for the poor chickens and horribly written code?

              If someone has a PieFed.world or .social I just know they hate brown people and communists more than they hate fascists.

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      Never forget: White Progressive [sic] Discovers Portland’s Unwanted Reputation

      Jordan Lund describes himself as “the whitest guy you’re going to know.”

      “Politically I am incredibly liberal. My biggest problem voting for Hillary Clinton is that she’s entirely too conservative.”

      Race isn’t something Lund thinks about often. He knows Oregon has a troubled history — that for generations, people of color weren’t even allowed to own land here. But from his vantage point — he works in tech in downtown Portland — that’s the stuff of history lessons.

      “The thing I learned growing up as a kid was certain cities in Oregon had the sign at the border saying, ‘Don’t let the sun set on you in our town.’ Grants Pass used to do that. I don’t believe they still do. That was always prominent, but it was always portrayed as the old school rules that don’t apply anymore, like ‘women can’t wear pants.’ It was wacky laws from before I was born, never really thought it would still apply,” he said.

      Except, those laws continue to resonate, generations later. They impact the way Oregon looks – Portland is one of the whitest cities in the country, and Oregon is one of the whitest states. And they impact the way the rest of the country sees this place Lund loves so.

      As a progressive – as a guy who would rather pick U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders or California Gov. Jerry Brown for president – that lack of diversity bothers him. Still, Lund said he doesn’t see much racism in his day-to-day life. He’s certainly never experienced it.

      “Against me? No. The differentiator I experience is because I’m male. I’ve had a lot of anti-male sentiment. I lost a job because of it. Because somebody didn’t like having talking to a guy. Such is life.”

      Lund doesn’t like the rhetoric of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. He recognizes that his own industry has a diversity problem when it comes to both people of color and women. And he worries about his adopted hometown — but for reasons other than racial tensions.

      “I think Portland had a variety of problems. Race is definitely one of them, yes. But I don’t know that we could classify it as the most important problem. if you look at the homeless situation, there’s definitely an income inequality problem, a mental health problem. there are a whole lot of more pressing problems besides race.”

      And despite his politics, he struggles to find sympathy or kinship with the Black Lives Matter marchers who occasionally disrupt his commute home to protest police violence.

      “I do pay attention to them. I think primarily as somebody who works in downtown we tend to be aware of things like that more because of the disruption it causes. I don’t think the disruption they do is particularly productive. It takes people who would ordinarily be on their side and go, why are they doing this to us? The Portland Police didn’t shoot anybody recently that I’m aware of. If they want to be productive in their protests, they should go to where these events are happening.”

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        Never forget that this dude is a Ruski pretending to be a red-blooded American while simping for Putin.

        I have screens somewhere of Davel going “reality tends to have a strong Russian-propaganda bias” etc bullshit.

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            “Wyaah I don’t have any critical faculties nor can I search for things for myself”

            Yeah I’m more inclined to believe you’re just another Ruski, and no amount of evidence would make you, not even reconsider but consider at all.

            Because you’re definitely gonna buy it after I show you the screenshots?

            Another Russian then. Which every Russian denies, ofc. The other day there were “what languages do you speak thread” and I went through the entire thread and found one polyglot who admitted to knowing Russian. Not a single person “Russian and English” for example. Even though Lemmy is fucking full of them/you.

            https://programming.dev/post/42228384/20995490

            Take a look at that post. There’s a bunch. If you’re questioning whether Davel is a Ruski after actually reading those and seeing the screens, then you’re obviously pretending not to see that everything he posts is inline with Russian propaganda and not mildly so.

            Bro has banned me from every community he is a mod in, and for the longest time was literally too afraid to post anywhere he wasn’t a mod at, because of me. (How pathetic do you have to be to do something like that fucking roflmao)

            https://lemmy.world/post/21534857/13227216

            That’s the post where these are

            It’s very well known that Davel, Yogthos etc are Russians or Russian shills. If you can’t see it while actually taking a look then you’re either pretending not to, or have severe cognitive issues and should prolly get checked out by a professional.

            Edit oh and here’s a non-exhaustive list of his aliases

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              Yeah I’m more inclined to believe you’re just another Ruski

              I am well aware of that, this is very obviously a pattern of thought for you.

              Looking at the posts you have linked, no I don’t see any overwhelming evidence of anything here. Didn’t you say it was easy to find?

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                “Show me the screenshots! (They’re so old he must not have them anymore.)”

                “Okay, but you’re just gonna pretend they don’t matter at all, despite Davel literally saying ‘reality has a well known Russian-propaganda bias’, you’re just gonna ignore them completely.”

                posts screenshots and much more than asked for

                “There are zero Russians on Lemmy and I see nothing here.”

                You literally asked for the screenshots. Now you’re panicking that I had them and have to resort to the old “nuh-uh, Russian propaganda doesn’t even exist actually!”

                Jesus fuck I don’t know how you manage to be so good at chess as a nation when literally every single one of you is dumber than the average American. Unless you’re actually the same ridiculous coward I’ve been arguing against on many occasions. Hahahaha)

                (Thanks for that though, on the list you go. Which one? The ones which you’re kind enough to help me with.:)

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                  (Thanks for that though, on the list you go. Which one? The ones which you’re kind enough to help me with.:)

                  Put me on your list of people you have cut yourself out from interacting with because you erroneously confused them pointing out correctly that you are full of shit with them being Russian shills.

                  “There are zero Russians on Lemmy and I see nothing here.”

                  Did I ever say there were zero russians here? You are clearly exaggerating my arguments in attempt to gotcha me, but I never said there weren’t russians on the fediverse with ulterior motives.

                  If you checked my post history you blabbering idiot you would see I am very pro-Ukrainian so… your lazy attempt to narrativize my actions according to your babylike understanding of the world falls apart immediately here.

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    In case anyone’s still on the fence re: this guy, a year ago I banned Jordanlund from our transgender comm for linking a Matt Walsh video, mocking people with neo/xeno pronouns. (idk why else someone would post that in a trans community)

    He proceeded to ban me from news@lemmy.world in retaliation.

    PTB through and through.

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          i’ve given upvotes to people i have chronic beef with all throughout this thread because Jordan being a problem is a unifying experience. he’s actually factually the first user account i ever blocked on lemmy almost 3 years ago

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        omg I read this at the time and then totally memory holed its existence, ty!

        Still, Lund said he doesn’t see much racism in his day-to-day life. He’s certainly never experienced it.

        “Against me? No. The differentiator I experience is because I’m male. I’ve had a lot of anti-male sentiment. I lost a job because of it. Because somebody didn’t like having talking to a guy. Such is life.”

        i-cant

        I am begging jordan to please consider that the problems he runs into are not due to misandry and minorities speaking up too much; it’s almost certainly just his behavior

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      They are also on the usa is arming and supporting Israel but not the genocide, thats the Isreali government taking advantage of those poor USA politicians

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    The solution is the same now as it was a year ago: stop participating in .world communities and start contributing your energy to the equivalent communities elsewhere. The entire point of federated threaded discussion boards is to be able to route around damage (or dipshits).

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      The solution is the same now as it was a year ago: stop participating in .world communities and start contributing your energy to the equivalent communities elsewhere.

      This is the way.

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        It’s only the biggest instance because people go there, and people only go there because it’s the biggest instance. Go somewhere else. Make THAT the biggest instance.

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    every time i read anything about jordan lund it just bums me out. he’s like a king of nothing.

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    I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.

    The lemmy.world admins have been very clear in their actions that they approve of jordanlund.

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      Shame on them then, if they take no action on Jordan Lund they are an embarrassment to the entire Fediverse and they diminish our community here by occupying the spot as the largest political community while harboring such heinous and unpopular, cruel and inaccurate beliefs about the world.

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          Honestly it might be, why else would they take half the things they get away with while saying other instances are guilty of doing it?

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          I feel like it would be less well managed if it was actually that to be honest. Like… in other respects the Lemmy.World moderation team seems to be fairly competent and all, I don’t have any particular beef about their competency personally, so in my opinion it is unlikely it is actually a CIA psyop.

          Do you think the CIA could even manage to keep a decent server uptime going? I am not so sure, maybe.

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            Go research Ed Bernays. Or NED. Operations Condor and Gladios. The Pentagon Papers. Julian Assange, Edward Snowden. Room 641A. Yellow Journalism. ETA: 4chan

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          Meh, back in the day, people accused me of being a CIA psyop just for refusing to support the two-party system. I openly declared my support for third-party candidates during the 2024 elections here on Lemmy, which was not as accepted as it is today. Saying “I hate both parties” wasn’t taken lightly. lol So a lot of people were saying I was CIA psyops, Republican psyops, etc.

          But someone having a different opinion than you, and being public about it, and defending it, isn’t how CIA psyops or any psyops would go about it.

          I totally think .world admins/mod are short-sided and foolish. But not nearly smart enough to be CIA.

          Also, .world is the worst instance in the fediverse, so PTB!

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            But not nearly smart enough to be CIA.

            You do not need to be smart or competent to be in the CIA.

            On average I genuinely believe normal community fedi admins are far more competent than the people the CIA tends to hire and hang out with.

            For one, CIA picked people are too bigoted and unquestioning of structurally encoded racism to even remotely keep a community stable.

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              Fair point! But I think Lemmy is so niche and extreme, that even an incompetent CIA operative would be smarter than just posting stuff that gets downvoted right away. If they were psyops, they’d pretend to be part of the mass, then slowly work on changing minds. But even then, I think Lemmy is too small and niche to bother with.

              Now that I’ve been on Lemmy long enough and seen the rabid extremisim and stubborness, I don’t think our platform is gonna grow much more. I’ll stick around, but I’ve noticed more and more “regulars” dropping off and leaving.

              Like your situation with Jordan. He won’t be disciplined. He won’t change his mind. And as more and more of this platform becomes like that, how long do ya put up with it before you just move on?

              I’m the change I wanted to see. I got kicked off .world, so I jumped on another instance the next day, restarted my communities and picked up where I left off.

              Most people just don’t give enough of a shit to try to make it work. Most would rather complain than contribute.

              So stay strong, friend. Keep contributing, make your own communities, and don’t let the ‘Jordan’s’ silence you.

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          World admins are masters of saying lots to say absolutely nothing.

          It’s either that or doing good things for the absolutely worst reason. Unironicly also given to jordanlund to do for banning amp links, not because of how terrible they are but because caused issues with their awful mbfc bot

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            but because caused issues with their awful mbfc bot

            OMG that fucking bot. Such a shitshow. Jordan still hasn’t apologized for that fuck-up!

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    When Jordan was sick, his communities were nicer and easier to discuss things in. Wish he stayed sick so the mini admin couldn’t silence topics he doesn’t want to hear about.

    PTB, as always with Jordan.

    Cancer is too good for genocide enablers, imo.

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      US funded genocide? Doesn’t belong in politics cause it doesn’t have anything at all to do with the US.

      Jordan getting his colon removed? Breaking USain news that absolutely belongs in politics.

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      Bruh, come one now. I love you, friend, but wishing someone stays sick with cancer because you don’t like how they act on Lemmy…that’s too far.

      You realize it was cancer, and not just the flu, right?

      He’s a PTB for sure, but nah, I can’t get behind your comment. The fact that ya got so many upvotes for saying that, is very icky.

      I love me a good call-out angerfest directed towards Jordan, but fuck cancer.