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The real kicker is that this is from people who bet against Iran striking Israel.
Wouldn’t even bet my life Israel’s iron dome is invincible, especially considering Iran already successfully broke through it last year.
Or you know, Gaza a bunch of times with pipe rockets.
The thing about these missile defence systems is that, regardless of how advanced a system is, it can always be overcome by sheer volume of fire.
A common tactic is to saturate the sky with cheaper dummy missiles/drones that don’t even have warheads, just to deplete missile defence stockpiles and protect the real missiles/drones from being intercepted.
This is happening a lot in Ukraine too.
TLDR; You’re right to believe Iron Dome isn’t invincible because there’s no such thing as an invincible missile defence system.
That’s thee dumbest bet i could imagine.
The “gamble on news” site causing psychos to threaten journalists wasn’t something I expected, but I blame a lack of imagination on my part regarding human depravity.
We should make sure every person on the Internet has their identity confirmed at the device level and then we can punish these people for writing the wrong Iran story.
- Department of War
The only way to fight this is to make a new bet on polymarket to profit off the odds that this journalist is killed by the gamblers in polymarket.
I was thinking it was just to not use polymarket but dang… I guess I was wrong.
nah, “vote with your wallet” can never work! You can only contribute to the problem more until it can’t go any further!
(i am not serious about any of this. a sane society would reject the existence of these “businesses” swiftly. if only…)
Vote with your wallet works if everyone agrees with you…
And the amount of people that love gambling makes it clear that most people do not agree with me.
US: promotes no gambling to children by suing Valve and their lootboxes mechanics
Also US: has an app where anyone can gamble on real life events.
🤷♂️
Polymarket is (or was, anyway) not operating within the US. These are non US people threatening the journalist.
It was not for a short period of time, but since 2025 it does.
My point that it was originated in US and is US based company that operates in US and globally - the same US of A which recently began fighting gambling in games, specifically Valve games.
Also, just recalled that US has a literal gambling city. Hi-fucking-larious.
no gambling to children
“protect the children” is used to justify all sorts of bad laws but there is absolutely no conflict between stopping something for children and allowing adults.
You: “The US is so stupid, it doesn’t allow marketing cigarettes to children.”
So what happens to him if he does change the story? Like… The new losers will be PISSED at him. It’s a no-win situation.
Also, the video of the strike clearly exists. If he changes the story there will be many other outlets reporting on the sudden change, the bets, the public requests for the change, and showing the video which apparently clearly shows a strike on Israel’s soil.
Shame death threats aren’t prosecutable
Hey, in this world even child rape isn’t, so I don’t know what we expect.
Holy shit.
Not only this is horrifying cause of the threats, it’s also very unsettling that something with such a recipe for disaster would attract so many rubes to be a working business model.
Yeah, it sort of makes me wonder how many bets have been fixed already.
I’m guessing a lot. Our wealthy like to gamble and are not normally subject to justice.
Distressing is right, there’s a lot of potential there. Especially with all the didling going on indicated by the Epstein files.
There was an article recently about some account called like “magamaster###” creating a bet about Iran, winnining $900,000 and all within the span of about 2 days before just disappearing.
Pretty sure the people that win aren’t doing it by luck anymore.
“If you decide to go with your ego and not with your head, you are leaving behind dozens of wealthy people from all over the world who will know that you performed market manipulation and stole from them. They know who you are, you don’t know who they are. It took them less than 5 minutes to find out exactly where you live … how often you see your lovely parents … and exactly who your … brothers and sisters are.”
So the guy threatening the journalist to change his story so the gambler can make money isn’t market manipulation, but the journalist not changing his story is…
What scary about this, and it was mentioned in the article, is how future stories by less than ethical “journalist” can be purchased so that one side can become rich. Fuck accuracy it’s all about the money.
Well it’s not like that is already the case with social media, but I would like to think there is at least some aspect of reporting that is based in ethics and truth.
Polymarket is one of many direct evidence of the impending fall of society.
It’s one of those things that would seem excessive in a story.
A place so decadent that everything was to bet for. Even as the world ended around them, they gambled on how.
It’s the real life version of the intro to Cyberpunk 2077, with the radio host talking about bets on the death toll in Night city.
Cyberpunk was supposed to be a dystopia, not a fucking instruction manual!
But seriously, I’ve lost about all enjoyment in cyber-dystopian stories because these days they cut depressingly close to home.
yeah I’ve had so many story ideas just end up being too on-the-nose. and a few that are “if I put this idea out there, someone will use it and make things worse for people I don’t know.” I don’t need that kind of karma.
A place so decadent that everything was to bet for. Even as the world ended around them, they gambled on how.
20 years ago, if you wrote a story about a dystopian future sci-fi setting that included polymarket, readers would interpret it as a heavy-handed metaphor for widespread cynicism and derealization
Really seems like a future dystopian sci-fi, where the main character is going to bring the whole system down.
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Oh yeah, it is messed up and doesnt even cover the section where apparently another journalist the writer knows was bribed to try and coerce the flow of information to get that win. It basically confirms that there is already a willing lack of integrity somewhere to think it would work here.
A few hours later, a colleague from another media outlet messaged me. He said that someone he knew asked him to ask me to change the report on the missile impact in Beit Shemesh, and that it would be “negligible” for me if I did make the change.
Going further, the acquaintance even offered the journalist compensation, from his winnings, if he managed to convince me to change my report.
What a stupid world we’ve allowed to be concocted.
Past few years I’ve been reading a shitty sci-fi series. In this series there’s a race of creatures whose entire society is founded on gambling. They bet on everything, and people frequently bankrupt themselves. The moment you look at that world-building with even a little bit of scrutiny it falls apart in its stupidity.
This is even dumber.
Lol pretty sure I know exactly what series you’re talking about (beer can?). You’re right - it’s dumb, and the writing isn’t exactly Dickens, but it’s funny. Almost finished with the series myself. Something to read until something better comes along, at least.
Go get yourself a juice box!
When I first started the series I almost quit at the first book, it felt very American Military masturbatory, and I wasn’t a fan. Eventually though, the worldbuilding and the cast captured me. At this point however it feels like the author signed a contract to squeeze out a quota of books and quality has suffered. It’s gotten so intensely formulaic to the point of not being interesting. I’ve fallen victim to the gamblers fallacy though so I’m still reading it; I just want it to end.
At this point you can tell that he struggles to make compelling storylines because he’s started writing self-contained short stories he’s throwing in at random parts of the book just to pad it out. It’s a good move though, I think they’re my favourite parts of the recent books.
Overall I like the series, I just wish it hadn’t been dragged out so much.
Yup.
Most cyberpunk read today.
How that shit is not illegal is beyond me. Gambling is already predatory but outside of sports and in fucking armed conflicts is abhorrent.
We are in the crime is legal era
Crime is legal… to the degree that you are sufficiently connected.
🔲 - White
🔲 - Male
🔲 - Cis
🔲 - Hetero
🔲 - Christian (preferably conservative evangelical Protestant)
🔲 - Politically conservative
🔲 - Wealthy
The more of these you can check off, the more crimes are legal.
“For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law.”
Crime is legal for the powerful.
Skin color and religion varies by country.
Because Trump took charge of the SEC. The crypto just handles payments - the market itself is centralized and exists with the permission of the state.
Wake me up when there’s a bet that angers people in power, it gets censored, and someone launches a fully p2p version.
So uh… what are the odds on polymarket for the guy getting killed?
Can you put out a contract on someone just by betting on polymarket that they won’t die by a particular date?
I think they already do that, didn’t people make money off betting on the ayatollahs death?
Advanced money laundering skill: 100
Lmao I think technically that would work… but I also don’t know how tightly polymarket polices/moderates wagers like that.
… Will you be the one reporting it? If so, I’m sure we’ll get to know each other very well.
Polymarket is one of the largest prediction markets in the world, where users can wager their money on the likelihood of future events, using cryptocurrency, debit or credit cards, and bank transfers.
So this is a market place where rich people can bet on how gruesome poor people can die in war zones and genocides. Is this any different from the rich hunting the poor for sport? Instead of a trigger, they click a button, but it’s not that different.
Isn’t humanity awesome? Can we please start jailing these (or at this point, all) psychopaths?
Seriously, 99% of the population consists of awesome people that take care of one another. The problem is that psychopaths, like the ones from the article, have the need to be on top and control everything and we let them.
Seriously, as far as I can tell, humanity could kill a few 10.000s psychopaths and all of the sudden, no more wars, no more hunger, no more conflicts, no more senseless pollution, the world could heal and humanity could enter a phase of sustainable awesomeness.
No. I am not suggesting we kill them, it was just to make the point. However, I do feel we need to start testing people for psychopathy (as far as possible and work in better screening) to ensure we keep these fuckers from positions of power and money. We need to stop psychopaths from gaining any real power.
Hell, if it were up to me, nobody would get great power or money. I’d have a world wide wealth cap, nobody can be worth over, say 1 or 10 million. Anything over that goes to taxes. THAT will stop people.frok amassing great wealth and power and just stop this shit
For the website: I wish people were still masquerading as Anonymous and would just continuously hack this site into the ground where it belongs, next to its disgusting creators.
Fuck I hate this world :(
Seriously, 99% of the population consists of awesome people that take care of one another.
hmmmm
Susan Sontag was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10% of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10% is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80% could be moved in either direction” —Kurt Vonnegut
No. I am not suggesting we kill them
Why not?
Because suggesting outright premeditated killing for people with a given trait, regardless of whether they have actually offended in any way or are an active threat or whether killing them is the only way to stop them being one, is kinda genocidal. We should never advocate killing people for things they cannot control.
Killing someone is, as our technology goes today, final. It robs them of all potential, all freedom, of the most basic human right: life. It is a heartless thing to do to someone, regardless of motivation. Yes, when you’re under attack, killing your attacker is valid, but it should never be taken lightly and inherently devalues their life in favour of your own survival. It is a trade we should accept, but also be aware of.
But reflexively resorting to murder when there is no immediate need for it infringes on fundamental human rights. And doing so indiscriminately for a psychological condition is, quite frankly, no better than killing people for their ethnicity or religion.
Restrict them from seeking power for a fundamental incompatibility with the requirements for empathetic governance, but do not call for their death. Do not forsake your own empathy.
Right. Im also not suggesting to kill everyone with a net worth of 1bn+ regardless of their actions. But there are many people whose greed has killed thousands and keeps ruining the lives of millions, would you not call that “being under attack”, which you brought up as a justification for homicide? Also the countless wars that are being fought for their pleasure where people are quite literally under attack.
But just to be clear, my first comment was meant as a joke.
would you not call that “being under attack”, which you brought up as a justification for homicide?
No, with “being under attack” in this case I meant immediate, impending physical harm with probable lethal consequences. Self-defense in that sense should strive to be somewhat proportional to the severity of the attack.
But you raise an interesting point:
We absolutely should do something about the suffering arising from the greed and cruelty of the super-rich. The difficulty with removing individuals is that the institutions propping them up will continue to exist. While their ownership (and the mechanisms of inheritance / transfer of that wealth) as well as the attendant authority is accepted as legitimate, the problem will continue to exist.
The theoretical approaches to changing this system – whether from within or without – don’t strictly require violence, but the people who believe in that legitimacy will follow orders to defend it against people that would render those orders void. If they do so violently, it may be necessary to defend ourselves.
And this is where you have a point I didn’t originally consider: if we perceive the orders (and thus the ones giving them) as the ulterior enemy, self-defense could extend beyond the immediate threat of people misguidedly following them.
This could also be applied to, say, healthcare execs that make decisions with significant impact on people in need of lifesaving care, or military industrial cronies.
Whether responding with violence is a good idea or at all effective is a different question, but I can see an argument that targeting key figures behind life-threatening orders would at least be a legitimate form of self-defense.
But just to be clear, my first comment was meant as a joke.
That apparently went over my head, but it lead to an interesting line of thought I didn’t consider before, so I’ll consider that a win.
Your comment is almost exactly the follow-up I had in mind for your first point^^
That apparently went over my head
Well, not like a funny joke, just in a joking manner
Whynot? Just donate to charity to get down to 999,999,999 nw and they’re safe.
If it was communicated clearly and set as an “official” limit, sure. But I dont think thats what we were talking about^^
I mean what part of kill all the billionaires is unclear? What else could we be talking about?
I propose torture, of being a well-supported member of proletariat class just without excessive wealth.
More like 10 million psychopaths. 4% psychopathy rate.
I didn’t believe you. can you present evidence?
I hate it all too.
Take me out first, please.
Time to boost this post. I have received death threats from Zionist, but I have a feeling these poly market people are scarier since they have money on the line
Timing is everything
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Ah crud. At least it is just upvotes. If it was UpDoots I would have been forced by their value.
