• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    You’re less likely to die in a car than on a bike.

    Also motorcycles are off the chart.

    Actually safety is just “how likely you are to be killed by a car” isn’t it?

    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Actually safety is just “how likely you are to be killed by a car” isn’t it?

      Wonder how this transfers to a plane 👀

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        Well the best way to not get killed by a car is to be 40,000 feet away. The next safest way is to be a fucking train.

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      A fair amount of motorcyclists manage to do themselves in on their own, but based on the shit I’ve heard from riders about near misses I’d bet it’s more car induced than anything.

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        Generally there’s a Dunning-Kruger effect that kills motorcyclists (same for pilots) in the first year or two, or some close calls scare them off motorbikes. Old / experienced motorcyclists are so hyperaware that they do pretty well.

      • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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        Yeah, alcohol is involved in ~1/3 of US motorcycle accidents. Americans are uniquely dangerous to themselves in motorcycles compared to other countries.

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          A year ago I learned that in my state most motorcycle crashes are single party (meaning there was no other vehicle/pedestrian involved), and of those, most motorcyclists were under the influence (drunk or drowsy). Still the most dangerous mode of transportation any way you cut it, but that particular mode of transportation happens to be really attractive to knobheads, just being a responsible rider will improve your odds on the road by leaps and bounds.

      • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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        As someone living in 1:1 car/motor ratio place, i can’t say the percentage of it, but i can say a huge amount of it is caused by reckless motorcyclist. Some people should only be allowed to take public transport.

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    If you’ve never wanted to die on a bike, you’re not pedaling hard enough! Or it’s not 95 F/35 C outside, one or the other.

  • cravl@slrpnk.net
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    Just change the x-axis to “Desire for Death” and the y-axis to “Likelihood of Death” (not necessarily your own) and it’s golden. 😅

  • Etterra@discuss.online
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    My problem with the whole “flying is the safestv way to travel” argument is one of sample size and traffic volume. Until the quantity and density of planes is closer to what you see flying down the interstate, it’s an apples and oranges comparison.

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      The point is that humans are weird at evaluating risk.

      Past a certain size, sample size stops mattering. You can filter the data to try and control for outliers and confounding variables, but with as much data we have on driving and flying, it’s just a fact that you are much more likely to be in an accident in a SINGLE car drive than you are in a SINGLE airplane ride.

      And if you really think about it, it makes sense. All the pilots are heavily trained. They mostly don’t need to be constantly alert looking for other vehicles/pedestrians. The density of traffic in the air is much lower than a road, so you’re just way less likely to hit another plane and you don’t need to avoid pedestrians.