Patented Dort_Owl unhinged rant that goes way off track incoming:

Australias response to the country potentially being fucked by oil prices? Is it “man we should have invested in clean energy more”?

Nope! It’s “We should have produced more fossil fuels at home! We need more oil and coal plants here in Australia!”

These people are a lost cause, they will never ever stop. They are trained in the hustle grind art of not changing their minds even after they’re beaten over the head with reality

So when people do their little song and dance of trying to reason or compromise with these mindless sharks it doesn’t work. It will never work. No amount of begging with your peaceful protests and your pleading to be rational will change their minds. Nothing will ever change their minds. I’m not even sure they have minds. They’re more like dumb animals responding to social dominance stimuli than anyone capable of rational thought. No wonder peaceful protests don’t work. When a dominant male lion starts acting like an asshole the lionesses don’t ask him nicely to come around to their way of thinking, they chase that fucker out of the pride and if he doesn’t leave, they kill him

This is why we shouldn’t have systems that reward this type of “I got where I am by being a big dog because I like power” lizard brained types. Because humans should know better by now. We don’t have the luxury of letting some mindless sharks in control of things like fossil fuels and nukes

Save your reasoning skills for when we have reasonable people in control of things

    • mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml
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      19 days ago

      How do you propose the Australian PM does this?

      I’m not trying to be facetious here but your criticism of the Labor party really doesn’t acknowledge the political reality Australia is in.

      If any PM attempted to extract Australia from the USA without Australia having nuclear weapons capable of reaching mainland USA Australia would eventually be invaded by the USA or at the very least bombed similar to Iran.

      While it’s a nice sentiment to want to reduce USAs influence in Australia (I strongly agree) it’s not really an actionable step without first having the means to defend ourselves against an aggressor who has significantly greater military power.

      • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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        19 days ago

        We would just not, like there’s no way they’re interested or capable of doing that.

        It’s difficult to know what is possible because much is behind the scenes but like aukus is never going to deliver subs, or at least none capable of being operated independently, so one option is to try realign on that with Europe/Canada. Closer ties to China are possible, we’re already heavily economically integrated.

        Threatening usa access out of Darwin is significant for their military strategy, so is pine gap, which gives Australia leverage while making new alliances.

        Cancelling data centre approvals threatens the usa stock market (a fucking huge number are being shoved down our throat), regulating usa tech would also make them unhappy.

        Military strategy could explore drones as defensive weapons, there’s a lot of australia to hide them in and launch from to repel any aggression.

        There are levers to lean on in order to withdraw from entanglement and secure more favourable terms while building ties with e.g. canada, france etc which is still somewhat palettable to the racist public.