Especially if it angers the US. FTFY.
Fuck the US, help Cuba.
51% of Canadians have a spine.
the “immigrant CUBANS” in florida, texas are totally against it.
the gusano coalition
that number is actually shockingly low.
what do you mean 49% of canadians want cubans to starve to death? this shit is horrible.
Major roadblocks to empathy are:
- Poverty
- Lack of education
- Fear
Unfortunately all are things politicians (especially from certain parties) are prone to intentionally exacerbating.
Not without coincidence, these things are also major roadblocks for ditching religion.I think that’s correct, it’s hard to empathize on an empty belly and rent due in a week. Number 2 leads to 1 in many cases because we have a bizarre society. 3 comes from perpetual 1 and 2.
Many people are struggling and “sending money overseas” has been pointed out as a main culprit (despite it being a minor contributor compared to so many other factors)
There’s a variety of other reasons possible, given that withholding aid doesn’t mean every Cuban starves, or even that many more. It will worsen conditions, but that’s a pretty typical tactic to put pressure on a government.
People who think the Cuban government is great are a tiny minority.
It will worsen conditions, but that’s a pretty typical tactic to put pressure
It’s only “typical” by western nations. The US explicitly started the blockade over half a century ago with the following justification:
“to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government”. Literally, google that sentence.
There’s written examples of sanctions being put in place literally before the West existed.
In recent history, it’s mostly the West, because other factions are too weak and isolated to attempt it. Not because they’re stupid, like you’re suggesting.
Please explain to me how weak and isolated China is, the producer of half the industrial products of the world. Please explain to me how isolated and weak the Eastern Block was in the previous century as the second world power.
China, weak:
It is an important 1/6, though, and they have tried to coerce policy changes with trade threats a bit. If you live here, you know we’ve gotten a few rounds of it.
Isolated, in the sense when they do something like that, other countries voluntarily going along with it isn’t even a question (the whole “only Han Chinese are people” thing kills earnest cooperation). Except maybe North Korea, although they ~only trade with China anyway.
Which dovetails into the next thing. Comecon was based in Europe, but if you’re not counting it as part of the historical West, I revise that to “the Eastern bloc did much more coercive trade policy than the West”. Since they didn’t trade freely with the greater world at all, it was strictly conditional and on a case-by-case basis.
GDP in USD is a bad metric, try GDP PPP.
they have tried to coerce policy changes with trade threats a bit. If you live here, you know we’ve gotten a few rounds of it.
Responding to US sanctions tit for tat is not equivalent to China starving other nations to enact regime change, are you arguing in bad faith or do you truly believe those two are comparable?
only Han Chinese are people
What on holy Earth are you talking about? You live in the worldwide capital of Atlantic trade slavery and you believe China is more racist than you somehow? 1 in 4 black men in the US are put in jail at some point in their lives, you’re literally accusing China of things that are only true in the US lmao, nice projection
“the Eastern bloc did much more coercive trade policy than the West”. Since they didn’t trade freely with the greater world at all
And didn’t enact international blockades such as the one the US is enacting on Cuba or like US+UK enacted in 1950s Iran to destroy the economy and remove the democratically elected president Mosaddeq.
Your argument is so incredibly flawed that you’re having to conflate “China responded to US sanctions tit for tat” and “the Eastern Block was mostly self-sufficient” with “the US forces international embargos on other countries with the explicit purpose of starving the population to push for regime change”. You are literally seeing in real time how Gazans are fucking starved by the US-supported siege of their population which blocks aid and food from entering (let alone trade) and you feel compelled to defend the genocidal USA anyway
You live in the worldwide capital of Atlantic trade slavery and you believe China is more racist than you somehow?
Well, typical American, assumes everyone is also American, even literally on Canada@lemmy.ca with a user called CanadaPlus. Black slavery was never a major part of our economy.
Your ilk claims to be anti-American, but somehow you’re overwhelmingly American, mostly white and actual third world people think you’re goofs. Basically, go home yank, and take your conspiracy theories with you.
GDP in USD is a bad metric, try GDP PPP.
Most of what you wrote needs no debunking, but I will address this for anyone reading. That’s based on a goods basket of some kind, and usually meant to represent household spending (although if you’ve actually been to a poor country, you can see it still misses the mark of actual lifestyles).
For broader economic power, real dollars (or renminbi or pesos or whatever unit you like) is best. Because that’s what you actually trade with.
many cubans are already starving regardless of canadian’s pretty little feelings about their government. withholding aid is just cruel.
Eh. Sudan needs it way more. And probably still Gaza, even though the media has moved on.
Regardless of your “pretty little feelings” about Cuba.
canada is rich and influential enough to substantially help all three, if they really wanted to.
Only 51 percent?
Whelp, at least it’s a majority.
Brains exploding in the Toronto Sun comment section of this article:
james ross · 11 HRS AGO FAKE POLLS - fake government Don’t believe a word they say…
Jim G · 12 HRS AGO I don’t believe these polls or any polls in Canada anymore. We need to provide aid to our own citizens that need it.
Revel Wolfe · 12 HRS AGO Just stop this madness. 51 million to Ukraine, 8 million to Cuba, how about we simply spend all this wealth on i dunno, Canadians?
del hansen · 14 HRS AGO Looks like a liberal convoy in Havana, no prosecution necessary all on the up and up.
Brian Lloyd · 14 HRS AGO I don’t get why Canadians find ok to support Communism in Cuba.
It’s kinda incredible that so much people haven’t bought the pro/US propaganda on Cuba given how much of it rains down on us.
And I guarantee you none of those fuckers want the money “saved” to actually be spent on needy Canadians. They want tax breaks because they’re “needy”.
The same people who vote to cut, not grow, social programs are asking for social programs?
I think what they really want is to be miserable fucks.
How many of those are actual Canadians (never mind Torontonians) vs bots, agitators, or retirees that haven’t stepped foot in Canada in years.
Those aren’t people. They’re foreign actors trying to sway public opinion.
The coolest Canadians I ever met were when I was on holiday in Cuba.
News site comment sections seem to be exclusively used by the most knuckle-dragging boomers. CBC has the same problem.
We need to provide aid to our own citizens that need it
Something tells me they aren’t interested in helping needy Canadians in any capacity.
Yikes! I hope you had a shower after going through there. Lol
🤣
I hope those figures are inaccurate … that can’t really be all we’ve sent to Ukraine, can it?
They should do it BECAUSE it angers the US.
remember, the media is owned by BILLIONAIRES - the intent is to report in such a way as to FORM OUR OPINIONS
Of course it’s higher than 51%, but they “adjust” their results to weaken our collective resolve
The time of very close french haircuts for the predator elite ruling class is approaching, and they know it
Stay strong hosers
Sure, it definitely is actually what you want it to be. Anything else is a conspiracy. /s
It’s important to recognize media bias.
But it’s equally important to not let our own bias discredit it.
And by aid, we mean solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries.
Not oil. They don’t need oil.
What makes you think any or even all of those modalities would meet their energy needs before people start dying?
Energy independence is key to ensuring this never happens again. Maximizing utilization of renewables is key to that on a long ye horizon. But in the short term, they need oil.
https://iacenter.org/2026/03/14/china-invests-in-a-bright-future-for-cuba/
They already have enough renewables for hospitals. They don’t need oil.
They do in the short term, but I agree that transitioning off oil as fast as possible should be the goal.
Yeah. Lemmy sure does love shoehorning their pet issues in, regardless of how impractical sending wind turbines to Cuba is right now.
As an American, please do so. Cuba didn’t deserve to be bullied.
Sure. US anger, irritation, and emotional problems are their own to deal with, not Canadians.
me too
anybody who’s not morally bankrupt should support doing everything possible to prevent people of Cuba from being starved
But only Russia actually sent the oil Cuba needs.
So far
They don’t need oil. They need energy, and oil is the worst form of energy.
They need oil and gas because like the rest of the world most of their country infrastructure runs on it
Nope. No need. Just want.
Well until someone sends them a different method of energy generation, yeah they need oil.
China already did. They have several wind turbine farms and solar power plants.
They don’t need oil. They just need to keep building. The whole world should be in this same position
China already did. They have several wind turbine farms and solar power plants.
If that was enough we wouldn’t be having this conversation
In 1984 this is how Canada helped a country
I don’t know, I just feel tremendously nostalgic today. Next I’ll look up Terry Fox again…
