No one’s talking about this but I don’t trust Carney with nationalized healthcare. There’s a reason Doug Ford feels so aligned with him. Trudeau hardly put up a fight with the provinces over this, I feel like Carney will support limited (at first) privatization.
We’re pretty fucked. Strap in boys and girls, the next few years at going to be tough. And keep an eye out for that fascism. He’s essentially setting up the blocks necessary to support it with his latest bills.
I am not particularly happy about this, wish the NDP picked up more seats but you can’t have everything you wish for.
Do I think PP will take this in stride and step down? No.
Do I think PP will take this in stride and step down? No.
For what alternative? Andrew Scheer again? There are good rumors over 40 of l’il PP’s MPs talked to Carney about floor crossing.
While the world is turning on Trump, Milhouse is giving kettlebells to Joe Rogan (is this his job?).
Politically, Poilievre is an enigma. Somehow, in spite of everything, all the blunders, cringeworthy gaffes, miscalculations, party defectors, he was literally chased out of Ottawa. And yet, he’s managed to stay on top of his party rank. How on earth did he overwhelmingly pass leadership review? It’s a mystery to me.
What catastrophe would it take to actually chasten this man, and his party? I shudder to think.
He passed leadership review because he picked the people reviewing him.
How on earth did he overwhelmingly pass leadership review? It’s a mystery to me.
I have a theory that fits the data surisingly well. Poilievre is recognized throughout the party as one of the few with the oratorical skills to flood the Liberals with their favourite brand of hollow, vaccuous critique in parliament and in the media. Simultaneously, he is one of the rare few who can mask his ghoulishness, unlike almost everyone else who goes mask off if they open their maws.
The last strong leader the conservatives had was Stephen Harper. Harper’s political superpower was that he got the party to shut the fuck up. He was a control freak who made most communications flow from his office only. In the rare and unavoidable instance where anybody did speak publicly the messages were short, carefully pre-scripted pieces design to stay locally relevant and not embarrass with national escalation. Avoiding the stuff that plays fine locally, but turns off the public regionally and nationally.
Everyone in the conservatives wants to express their mask off maga chud rhetoric. Only tiny pp can keep the mask on, barely.
How on earth did he overwhelmingly pass leadership review?
Because the alternatives are somehow worse. At one point, when Canada’s sovereignty is under real threat, the only leader the PCs could produce was a US citizen, who promised to renounce his citizenship when he ran for PM.
It’s MAGA money
Remember the leadership “vote” he recently passed was based on the votes of people who paid ~$1500 to be there
I mean, the party is made of assholes leading morons, but in the case of teensy weensy PP, the morons didn’t put him back in power after all the ridiculousness you listed, wealthy assholes did
Hopefully, there is a legitimate investigation into him and that traitorous snake Smith in Alberta
Remember the leadership “vote” he recently passed was based on the votes of people who paid ~$1500 to be there
Also worth noting it was held in Calgary and all voters had to physically be there. So voters were Calgarians with enough money to get in, and people from the rest of Canada with enough money to get in and enough money/time to travel there.
For sure, I’ve heard that argument, but I wonder - if I had wealth that I wanted to protect, and I thought a strong Conservative party was a means to that end, I’d want Poilievre gone yesterday. Still remains a mystery to me what CPC supporters see in him, in light of all the evidence in front of them.
Still remains a mystery to me what CPC supporters see in him
Sad truth is a part of Canada wants to be the USA.
How do I upvote this twice
I’d prefer a very slim minority but I’m about to repeat email my MP about forcing voting reform through now that they’re in majority territory. Perhaps they’ll Trudeau it, perhaps not.
The Liberals just voted down electoral reform at their convention a couple days ago.
There’s a universe in which a Conservative leader with an ounce of charisma was in charge 2 years ago and is now cosying up to trump.
Thank heavens Poilievre sucks so much.
I think the country runs best when there is a competent opposition. Having a dysfunctional official opposition is a bad thing for democracy, and not something anyone should wish for. Even if we disagree with the stance of the opposition, we should want them to be at minimum, logical, representative of the principles of the people who cast votes for them, and an effective check on the government.
And anyway, in Canada, federally, we do not have a single electable pro-trump politician. So, if there’s something to be thankful for, maybe it’s that.
Oh, I fully agree about wanting a competent, reasonable Opposition. But this Opposition doesn’t strike me entirely as such, regardless of the leader. I’d much prefer a better Opposition but I’m happy this Opposition self sabotaged by choosing to be led by a man who utterly repels such a large swathe of the electorate.
Even if we disagree with the stance of the opposition, we should want them to be at minimum, logical, representative of the principles of the people who cast votes for them, and an effective check on the government.
Being competent is only good when one is not evil (which rightwing politicians are almost by definition). Also there’s no relation between being competent and representing the people who voted for them, and only acting as a check on the government when it tries to do something good is worse than not doing so at all. An effective opposition not acting in the interest of the people just becomes a ratchet holding back progress.
when one is not evil (which rightwing politicians are almost by definition).
In the Canadian context, could you explain who you are talking about, and why you think they are evil?
I mean, the CPC in general for scapegoating immigrants, supporting Israel, ignoring climate change and anti-worker pro-rich policies? It’s basic conservative stuff, and it pretty much universally makes the non-1% world a worse place to live.
…and suddenly there is silence
well said
LPC is advancing hard on all those files. Curious to know what you make of that.
I consider anyone who supports these things to be an evil asshole who shouldn’t be allowed within ten miles of authority. That does include most LPC MPs and especially Carney, yes. Why do you ask?
I’m trying to understand the point you’re making.
Glad that instead we got a conservative leader who speaks out both sides of his mouth…
Edit: To clarify, I’m talking about Carney here, I see him and the Liberals as a conservative party.
Yea, thank god we instead have a conservative who’s first reaction to the US/Israel attacks was “Canada will unconditionally support the US” and who only bery slowly afterwards changed his stance.
The only thing good about this is the floor crossing to be able to point to the Liberals next elections and say to all the “strategic” voters that they’re literally voting for conservatives and/or a party which was attractive to Conservatives. We shouldn’t need that, because oh my god, but whatever, I guess.
14% of the NDP party members have crossed the floor, should people on the other side, centre right who voted Liberal be concerned they are also “literally voting for the NDP and/or a party which was attractive to the NDP”?
Probably not, because there is a reason you listed NDP floor crossers as a percentage rather than an absolute value.
I voted Liberal, but I feel like something would to be pretty controversial to not get 1 MP from the bloc or NDP to go along with it. Which is why I’m not crazy about this majority.
One NDP MP did cross the floor, Lori Idlout: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/idlout-crossing-floor-liberals-9.7123443
She did so because her constituents asked her so they could have a voice in the leading party. Otherwise they’d be reduced to silence. And that proved to be a good move considering how things turned out.
“A good move”
Yeah, great move from an indigenous MP siding with the government that not long ago tried to bypass treaty rights for “projects of national interest”.
You’re totally going to get a good voice in with all the Conservatives who crossed the floor, including someone who suggested sending in the military to deal with the Wet’suwet’en pipeline protests.
Idlout’s crossing was dumb and outright pathetic. Like congrats on being the token indigenous person for whenever the Liberals run into issues with indigenous people. “Well actually we’re not trampling over indigenous rights, look, we have an indigenous woman here!”.
Hell ya!
Yay, glad that we’re getting a majority that will give no fight whatsoever against AI taking people’s jobs and ruining small communities through noise, increased electricity bills, and water restrictions for corporate profits.
Fight against AI? No sir, Carney is pushing AI like crazy.
