• mestari@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I know Americans thank god quite a lot but do they really thank god when they win in sports too? It feels like it would be out of place.

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      They do. All the time. Not just at the end, but during the game if they make a good play, they’ll point to the sky. It’s insane. Sports and religion, especially American football and religion, are deeply intertwined in this country. It’s one of the reasons I’ve never really gotten much into sports.

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        So I don’t think everytime to do the point to the sky thing it’s religious. I played a lot of sports through high school and in college and I did that but I’m an atheist. For me it was more of a “bless up” type thing. I’m sure a decent amount of it in sports is religious but I don’t thing every single time it is. It’s just a way to celebrate without being overly cocky and being proud of what happened

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            right like I don’t see how you could write that and not see the obvious religious connotation.

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            The word up after bless doesn’t make it sound religious I don’t think. Saying bless up is another way of saying having good luck. There is clearly a non religious terminology to it but if you force it to be religious then you can. If you take bless up literally then sure it can be religious but it’s a figure of speech. You could say that it is another way of saying “good on luck”

            Please google “bless up” everyone downvoting🙏 hope you find a religious meaning

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              This is just you not understanding how ingrained religion is in sports. Bless up is literally a shortened version of a prayer you are copying.

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                What prayer?

                I’m getting downvoted but I would love for everyone reading this to just google “bless up” and find the religious meaning in it. If you find it after scrolling through pages of non religious meaning there you go. Not everything with “bless” is religious. It’s just slang

                Also it’s not only sports. SO many people in college would say that term in any way where something relatively good happened to them. None of them were religious. People were using it in ways to replace “hell yeah”. So is it that I’m not knowing of a prayer or it’s just where I grew up and everyone used it in different ways to say something good happened and always used it as a figure of speech and never literally?

                I’m starting to think this community is just nutcases who want to get butthurt at every single thing they can about religious people. Y’all are really complaining about people pointing to the sky? What if that is just something they picked up along the way growing up but don’t care for a god? What if they have a dead relative and they’re doing that not as a religious thing but as a “that’s for you?”. There’s so many reasons people can be doing that and yet you all are just making fun of them and complaining about it. I’m not religious but cmon, be better than that. You can’t assume every single thing you see that COULD represent some part of religion is 100% it everytime.

                People who are saying that they aren’t watching sports anymore due to people being “religious” in it are not better than people religious people lol that’s for sure. Like, who cares if there is religious people in sports? You really are going to take away that could bring you a lot of enjoyment in life just because of them pointing up or what they say after the game? I just feel sorry for you that you allow religion to control your life that much. Ignore it, who cares. But when it does come for something that matters like politicians trying to ban books for stupid ass things, that’s when you fight. Not for people pointing up.

                People are going to say “I don’t want this religion shoved down my throats while watching a sport”. Well guess what? There’s also non religious people playing and making good plays but you’re just paying attention to the ones that do religious stuff. You’re also no better than those banning books and trying to force a Christian fascist nation on us. Allow people to have their own beliefs and don’t let it bother you. But when they come like politicians are and those extreme religious folks are trying to change everything, attack and fight back on those people. You’re fighting against the wrong religious people. Not all religious people are bad, it’s not hard to go day by day and not let religious people ruin it. You believe what you believe, they believe what they believe, so what. Also, not everything that could be religious is religious unless you’re trying to force it just to be upset at something

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                  Wow… ~It’s literally “All my blessings up to God”…~. After looking some more I can see that this isn’t the origin of the Jamaican phrasing, but the Jamaican phrasing is literally defined to mean “have a blessed day” which is unequivocally religious…

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                    Hmm… Crazy how people can use terms in non religious ways

                    We all know English is a weird language how one word can have different meanings in different phrases. Guess what? This is one of em so no, in this phrase it is not religious.

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        In Portugal it’s a common way to dedicate a goal to a decently deceased person. It’s not insane at all.

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            Even if you were it would still hold religious connotation, I would assume the reason they point up for a recently dead person is to imply they are in heaven, what else does it mean? so still religious.

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              They point up because everyone knows what it means, if they pointed to the ground everyone would be confused. It’s really bizarre to classify these gestures as insanity.

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                Maybe if you put it into Portuguese context it isn’t insanity. If you actually hear the very religious statements these American athletes make, it’s clear that it’s part of insane religious bullshit.

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      Oh absolutely one hundred percent.

      At least in high school football in Texas lmao

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      Tim Tebow would kneel and pray during football games just before he did a play. Just to suck up everyone’s time, I guess.