• MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    They know. But it’s better for them for crime to be up and police to be fat, so they can run on being hard on crime, and police works for the rich instead of the people.

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      Prison labor is essentially legalized slavery so there is incentive to keep poor people incarcerated. There’s a reason why the US is the most incarcerated nation in the world.

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        i think the situation wouldn’t be as bad if there weren’t also for-profit prisons that have an additional incentive to exploit people who are incarcerated. all prisons should be nonprofit. (what a weird thing to say out loud)

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    the people are kept poor so that they can push more people towards the military, it’s a known scheme. the fed gov fundamentally doesn’t care about people’s wellbeing; how would it? it’s never held accountable by the people. it’s too far away, too abstract, too difficult to walk there with pitchforks and torches …

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    A 32-hour, 4-day work week can be more productive than a traditional 40-hour, 5-day schedule, particularly for roles that require cognitive engagement beyond routine production line tasks.

    There are studies that prove this. It also reduces sick days. Does anyone care? No, let’s ignore science because it feels like it’s more productive to force productivity.

    People like simple solutions more than listening to science.

    More cops, less crime.

    More work, more productivity.

    More billionaires, better economy.

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      Yeah one of the biggest learnings for me over my career is that people are hard-wired for stories. It doesn’t matter how good an engineer/scientist you are, how well explained or robust the logic/study is, etc. People only respond to how things make them feel - we are emotional beings with the ability to rationalize, not the other way around.

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      I was going to mention the same thing. The recent AI craze and productivity studies are another similar thing. Same with return-to-office. Our rulers (the owner class) put power and cruelty over rationality.

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    This is psychologically unsatisfying for too many people. At the core of capitalist propaganda is the idea the the rich and the poor both deserve what they have. In the US, we further buttress this ideal with something called “prosperity gospel”.

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    Cops are mainly to suppress anybody who doesn’t go along with the will of the powerful.

    They don’t exist to reduce harm to the many, they exist to protect the assets of the Owner class, which is why in Law property “crime” is usually more severely punished than anything but murder and why cops are vastly more speedy at investigating and prosecuting “crimes” committed against the Owner class or their Assets than they are when it’s the riff-raff that suffers.

    They’re minions to a handful of people, not servants of the public.

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    As a person whose home was recently burgled: I spoke with 4 different police officers/detectives in the investigation. I agree that what we need is a less desperate society, not more policing.

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      Let me guess… They’re investigating but have no interest in doing actual police work once the case is filed.

      Bad cop, no doughnut.

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        The first two responded to the initial call, the second two were from the forensic ID team, checking for prints and seeing if there was anything likely to give a good DNA signal. I don’t know what else I could expect from them. I know they worked with the power company to figure out what time my power was cut, and went to my neighbours to see if they had any video from that time.

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      Can I ask what they took? It’s none of my business, but I guess I’m morbidly curious about what they were desperate to have, and why burglary was a better option than, say, shoplifting or something

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      Why not both? Other people’s desperation is not an excuse to rob you.

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        Yeah I’m not excusing the burglars. I’m saying the way to reduce the number of burglars isn’t more police, it’s less desperation.

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        Because we live in a universe of finite resources. So maybe be efficient, and do the things that work best first. When we have a budget surplus we can talk about where to spend that.

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        More policing creates more criminals, which increases net desperation since society punishes people with a criminal history.

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        It’s more effective on a finite budget. Just like focusing on a rehabilitation is better than focusing on punishment in prisons. The Norwegian method spends way more per person but the ones that go through the system are much less likely to come back. This means that per person Norway spends way less than a lot of other countries.

        Norway spends 3x more per prisoner than the US but spend half as much on prisons.

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        Explanations aren’t excuses. Especially because the things that drive individuals are systems; we can strive to hold individuals accountable for their actions whilst also recognise the systemic oppression that makes it harder to make good choices

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    Homeless people cost tax payers between 30-50 thousand dollars a year. Housing the homeless is likely fiscally conservative.

    This means the incentive structure in our society is wrong. People who lack the creativity to solve novel problems resort to psychopathy to to be productive in the economy. Military industrial complex, private prisons, judge judy.

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    its not about the wellbeing of our society, its about being in control. by force

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    If poors stop doing crime and cops can’t arrest the poors then who will give profit prisons free labor??

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    This just in: people will resort to any means necessary to eat. More at 10.

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        one of the biggest grocery chains in australia just made $2B last FY. They’ll be fine.

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          Loss is calculated in anyhow. Unless they go out of their way there’s no way to know what caused it - shoplifting, breakage, employees making themselves feel slightly better about their abysmal working conditions…

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          Except for that one overzealous middle-manager who will immediately get irate as if you had insulted them personally, as they demand you go back to the register so an underpiad cashier can embarrassingly ring up every item so they know exactly how much you stole, and finish by entering your face into a 3rd party database that will flag you every time you walk in any other store that also utilizes this database.

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    Related: it’s been long known that giving unemployed people money is good for the economy.

    “I’m a supporting member of society because I work 40h/week, and you aren’t” simply isn’t true.

    I don’t have the scientific paper to support this but I’ve known it since the 1990s.

    Economists know it too. It doesn’t even have anything to do with “socialism”.