It’s pretty amazing, I count two actually historical things that left pic.
- people existed and wore clothes
- buildings were made from stone
tbf that’s technically six things:
- people existed
- clothes existed
- people wore clothes
- buildings existed
- stone existed
- buildings were made from stone
that’s three times as accurate, so I’d say it’s pretty good
Idk that guy on discovery channel told me buildings were made of magic crystals
You got it wrong. They used magical crystals (given by aliens) to make their stone buildings.
Wow! You sure are super smart! Here is all my money!
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor is lying to you. They used ancient petrified wood and dinosaur bones to make their stone buildings. Big Dino and they’re advocates (looking at you AbsolutelyNotAVelocirapto) spread misinformation regarding magical, alien crystals, because they got tired of people stealing their bones.
That wall is clearly a façade and probably made of foam…
I knew one of those. She was gushing about the clothes the extras in A Knight’s Tale were wearing. Apparently they were super accurate. But you should never ever ever ask her about the main characters or she wouldn’t stop ranting.
Yeah but that film was anachronistic in certain parts on purpose, and all the background being accurate just made that more obvious.
I mean the rendition of We Will Rock You was a pretty big hint in that regard
Henry the eighth’ best, in my opinion. Fuck green sleaves.
Yeah didn’t the Queen right that one or something?
This is something that Karolina Zebrowska would absolutely make a video about, too.
How on earth would that be a realistic medieval movie?
Because there are castles and… uh… swords and lances!
What movie is this?
I think it’s the 2018 Robin hood where they all look like they’re clothed by GAP.
The legend of king Arthur or sommin
A realistic medieval one, didn’t you pay attention?
Looks kind of time travel from the early 20 century to 15th or something.
I’ve loved Bernadette Banners videos on costuming. It’s been awhile though I think, I might rewatch the old ones.
Everything is the matrix.
The Matrix was mainly PVC, not leather
But it’s gotta be swooshy. Or at least it does by the third act. And black. And ideally strappy. Lots of straps and buckles
Oh absolutely
Also latex. It did have leather coats though
In the later ones there was latex yeah, and you are absolutely right that Morpheus had a sick leather coat.
I never really saw Reloaded and Revolutions.
Hehe, I just remembered when I first saw The Matrix, it was at a christian confirmation camp, and the main priest arranged it as it was one of her favorite films due to the philosophical topics it brought to the table. This was in Sweden and the camp was basically a summer camp with light religious theming.
When did sons of anarchy get a bill and teds crossover?
Without having actually seen it myself, it could be the 2017 King Arthur movie since I don’t see much else medieval-sounding in his IMDB credits
It could just be a picture of him out on the toon with his mates in Newcastle.
They’ve been desperate to get that Interdimensional Cable vibe back for years now…
I mean… who cares? Some directors like to make historically accurate movies and that’s fine. Others spend their budget on other things and that’s their artistic choice. They make it look realistic for an average person, not average history professor. It’s fun to later see someone rage about it and learn some history but knowing the pants or hats are realistic or not doesn’t really improve the viewing experience for most people.
I remember anecdote from a sound effects guy. They had to record sounds a tape recorder makes for a movie so they took an old tape recorder and recorded it. Simple. Turns out it sounded exactly like a robot to them because someone probably used a tape recorder to make robot sounds in some popular TV show. They had to look for some other way to make tape recorded sounds. So in the end, the tape recorder in the movie didn’t sound realistic and some expert could shit on the work they did but what’s more important? Having realistic sounds or having sounds that people would recognize as tape recorder and not a robot?
Because if you don’t want to be at all accurate then don’t pretend it’s historic. Call it fantasy. Easy.
No one calls out game of thrones for being unrealistic - instead we call out dumb writing.
I would say most people do realize that movies are fantasy, not documentaries. Just what part is fictional differs but complaining that movie set in the past in unrealistic is as silly complaining that movies set in modern times are. Do you think Lethal Weapon realistically depicts work of police officers? Does Scream realistically depict a serial killer? People realize it’s entertainment and don’t complain about it. I don’t know why once the movie is set in the past it requires announcements that it’s “fantasy”. Yes, it’s a movie, you should know it’s not real.
You say that, but plenty of movies and shows do specifically aim for realism when they’re going for historical periods. It’s not like they have to be accurate or entertaining. They can be both.
Heck look at how much retro gear they pulled out for Stranger Things. That isn’t even that far back and clearly sci-fi but tons of viewers appreciated them making the effort.
Personally, I love both styles and have no problem enjoying 300. It never pretends to be realistic though.
Realism is Stranger Things was to evoke nostalgia. They didn’t have to place this story in the 80s. They did it because they wanted nostalgia to be additional “selling point”. They did it well because they knew huge part of their audience remembers the 80s and will appreciate it.
Historical movies are the exact opposite. Very few people will appropriate historical accuracy, most will not even recognize it, or worse, be confused by it. Some things we done wrong so many times people are used to it. It’s also very difficult to do accurately and requires a lot of time and resources which a lot of productions don’t have.
I don’t even know what people are arguing here. That historical movies should all be huge, accurate productions? That inaccurate movies should come with some warning labels? Or include dragons so no one is confused by it?
Imagine I’m a beginner filmmaker and want to tell to story of Abbas ibn Firnas because I think it’s interesting. I have budget for enough CGI to make Cordoba look like it’s 9th century but not to dress dozens of extras in accurate clothes or film it in Arabic. What should I do? Give up because I can’t make it perfect? Or tell the story as well as I can? If in the end I make a good movie and people learn about Abbas ibn Firnas from it what’s the point of complaining about the costumes on youtube?
You know they don’t HAVE to say it’s realistic right? They can say it’s their interpretation, but if they’re going to market it as realistic and gritty then we can absolutely call them out on being off target.
If a company advertises a car as getting 50mpg and you actually get 30, are you not going to call that out?
Ok, so your beef is with marketing teams in movie studios, not with writers and directors. I think that’s something completely different than being angry at movies for being unrealistic. You would just like movie posters and trailers to include some info saying “this movie is not historically accurate” and then it would be fine for them do whatever they want?
What specific movies you have problem with? Which movies were marketed as realistic and weren’t? I know for example Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Rome or Deadwood are known for their realism but were they actually marketed as such? No idea. Are we talking about trailers claiming that “this movie is historically realistic”? Interviews with the crew? I honestly never saw any marketing claiming some medieval movie is realistic. If you can show me some examples of movies or shows claiming they are realistic in marketing materials but actually not even trying to be I will 100% agree with you it’s unfair and shitty behavior.
yes but the simple fact is that a movie will always be a simulacra. it’s not possible to do it any other way. those that strive for accuracy are just nerding out about a different touchpoint to the current era, in a world long gone.
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I do, because they’re cowards. If you wanna film Robin Hood as a modern SWAT action movie, don’t chicken out and make bows act like guns, do what Baz Luhrmann did in Romeo+Juliet.
I think the problem comes up when people believe these creative liberties as truth. Like, corsets didn’t break people’s bones or reshape their bodies. If you present something as historically accurate you should try to be. None of these people I’ve seen have complained about obviously modern/historical fusion pieces
I think this is only a problem when someone specifically promotes the movie as accurate representation. Like if the movie is based on real events. If you show real people inaccurately in can be defamation and it’s a problem. Other than that I don’t see any issue. It’s cinema, every genre has its tropes and simplifications. In the end the main goal of the director is to tell a story. If he decides the story he wants to tell doesn’t require historical accuracy than it’s his choice. You have movies and shows that are built on accuracy (like Downton Abbey) and shows that don’t (like Bridgerton). Both are fine in my opinion (as a concept, not necessarily as a show. I haven’t even seen Bridgerton and got bored by Downton Abbey). For me the accuracy is totally secondary. I liked A Knight’s Tale more than I liked The Last Duel.
Sometimes you just have to ignore those things. I’ve seen Fall movie recently and as a climber I have to say the climbing scenes were the absolutely dumbest, most physics bending bullshit I’ve seen. But the movie worked otherwise. I assume for non climbers this movie was even better. I see it at least partially as my issue, not the directors fault. I can’t enjoy climbing movies like other people because I know to much about it. History buffs can’t enjoy historical movies. Deal with it.
Yeah, and I totally get it. Most of these reaction videos are for content for those people who also notice what’s off.
