I remember one night just distraught and utterly frantic because I just could not finish an essay. Either I hadn’t finished the book or just didn’t have anything at all to say. Dumbass AI would have helped so much. Even in just helping me get started on my own. Such a different world right now. I don’t like it and not because I’m ignorant of new things but because I’m not. Ignorance, as they say, is bliss.
Unfortunately for your cousin their teacher actually knows things and will spot all the errors ChatGPT makes.
Consistently, in every field, GenAI looks good to people who don’t know anything about the field, and looks like trash with obvious errors to people who are knowledgeable about the field.
You have to revisit this concept every 6 months or so. Shit’s moving fast, they’re getting better at references and checking actual reference material before giving you an answer.
I’m not saying that everything is solidly as good as people right now, but you can’t just use that blanket statement forever.
Asking one of the new models to make a paper on a 5th grade subject written like a 5th grader who get’s B’s did it, then clearing context or changing engines and asking it to check your work throug the lense of a 5th grade teacher would very likely net you nearly undetectable results.
You’re so right I bet there’s a boatload of training data on the open web about what 5th grade teachers are looking for when grading papers
Unironically, there likely is. You don’t think there are discussions on Facebook, Reddit, WhatsApp and other places where teachers discuss their ways they are finding students who are using LLMs? Cmon now, let’s not bury our heads in the sand.
We probably even have data in training about AI detection and base system prompts to take that into account when asking for educational help.
If they manage to get this all absolutely correct, we’re just pumping the gas all the way to Idiocracy.
“Just 10 more data centers bro. Just another billion dollars and it will be as good as a person. Just 6 more months bro.”
Yes, they are improving, but there is also deminishing returns. If you doubled the amount of resources in genAI right now you would not get something twice as good, you might get a 25% improvement, and the resources currently being used is already obscenely high. GenAI is slowly closing the gap, but the resources required to do so are rapidly increasing. Actually closing the gap in unsustainable.
then clearing context or changing engines and asking it to check your work throug the lense of a 5th grade teacher would very likely net you nearly undetectable results.
Did you literally just say “if you have genAI check the work of other genAI the genAI will say it’s good”?
25% wishful thinking. Valid point tho.
Did you literally just say “if you have genAI check the work of other genAI the genAI will say it’s good”?
Yes, that is how they’re getting by a large number of the previous issues. Multiple tries across versions of models with different training. Add in web searches. They’re getting accuracy by cheating precision. It’s expensive as fuck too.
but there is also deminishing returns.
absolutely correct. One query to local llm has a decent chance to be wrong. To bump that up, they’re generating a shit ton of queries. It’s eventually good for humanity overall, by the time they get it truly reasonable, the cost of the queries will be so high that when venture cap runs out, no one will be able to afford it even if it is replacing wages. Then we can go back to just using it as a tool.
Wall-E does not show the poor people, btw.
You’re looking at the ultra wealthy and the ship crew—the poor are dead.or are surviving on a desolate earth, somehow
Considering the movie kicked off with a plant being found after 100 years of the planet being almost lifeless, probably not.
Cannibalism could carry a species for quite a while. Maybe not multiple generations without external nutrition sources, but there had to have been many billions of people for that much trash to pile up.
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Either dead or enslaved.
Considering Buy-n-Large is basically Wal-mart, I think you could argue that it would similarly serve poorer communities. Like any good virus, they can’t kill the host.
Walmart does kill its hosts. Just because it takes longer than most peoples’ attention spans doesn’t erase the damage they do to towns and communities.
couple of times when I’m sitting in Starbucks, I heard groups of boys planning the prompts they would use to fool the teacher.
Wall E foresaw the future. Who would have thought that a robot has more culture and humanity than humans themselves? It’s with the benefit of hindsight why I think Pixar is genius in making the film!
As a side note, I’m not inherently opposed to AI. My work is heavily laden with silly administrative work which involves time-consuming data entry and modification. Using AI helped me to minimise such needless and painstaking monotonous task. What I fear about AI is when people use it to do the thinking for them.
This is the “if we’re lucky” scenario at this point
The ancestors of the people on that spaceship were Earth’s 1% elites. Us impoverished 99% will be left to rot under the garbage mountains.
No because the AI in Wall-E actually fuckin worked and did stuff correctly.
Haha, such a hopeful image. It’d be an incredible future if we could have so little work needing to be done the functionally self-lobotomized users of AI could be cared for like mentally handicapped children. Unfortunately, it’s much more likely we will have a lot of people scrambling to try to learn later in life what they were supposed to be learning in their school years, more than we have now I mean, and a shortage of qualified teachers to help them.
Not really. That’s the “life of leisure” AI bros promised, you wish you could just lie and chill and watch videos, but instead everyone will be piss poor homeless. That’s a billionaire’s kid in the image.
A few years ago my son’s Spanish teacher gave them tons of online work over Christmas break (interactive click the right translation type work). At first I felt really bad and kinda mad at the teacher for him, then he was like ‘I got this’ and proceeded to set up a local model that would look at his screen, invert colors to see the letters better, translate, and then click the right answer; it was in that moment that I realized he may never speak Spanish, but he’s gonna be alright.
My employer is in full on AI psychosis, they have opened op Copilot Pro to every employee, and have asked everyone to dedicate a few work hours every week for nothing but AI.
I hate it.
We are removing skills and knowledge and replacing them with a statistics driver chatbot.
I can’t wait for the trough of disillusionment to arrive and pour some sanity into the hype.
I have accepted that AI won’t go away even after a crash, but it needs to be treated as a another tool, not as a replacement of an actual staff member.
We can’t afford to grow dependent on AI, neither financially nor mentally.
In these last four or so years we have had AI (ChatGPT, Copilot, etc…) we have already started seeing a decline in skills and knowledge in the workforce, and without those skills and knowledge we can’t evaluate the responses we get from AI, the moment we completely loose that ability, it is over.
I resist AI because I like understanding the stuff I create, and I can’t really do that without coding myself.
“Nothing but AI”… what does that even mean lol
Like researching AI? Screwing around with ChatGPT? Or just offloading your entire workload one day a week?
This is such a poor business model lol, I’d just secretly spend the time on one of those AI “gf” porn bot websites haha
Get two ai to just talk to each other while you browse lemmy.
1: Download the text of English Wikipedia
2: Set up a script to take one random line from one random article and add, “I just read <insert quote here>. Can you please write me a 5-page essay explaining that in as much detail as possible?” to it, and then submit that into the AI prompt. Set it to automatically repeat that process every time the AI finishes responding.
3: Kick back and relax.
4: Impress your boss with your high AI usage statistics.
Don’t forget to spawn a few expert subagents to verify the response from multiple points of view.
Keep burning through your token allocation, asking for more. Get promoted. Profit.
Now you’re tokenmaxxing!
That’s disgusting! What websites are these? Just so I know which ones to avoid?
I wonder what would happen if you used an AI during dedicated AI time to get it to explain why humans are essential and AI is a bad replacement for them. Do they audit your chats? Could be funny. Or you could get fired. Idk.
Eh, so far I am just ignoring it, I have a lot of work and don’t have time to try and get a statics powered chatbot to try and help me.
I tried one time I wanted it to compare two lists and give me a list of differences, I spent an hour trying to get it to understand what the lists were and their context, then I just did it my self.
I like scripting, it would probably have been faster to just write a powershell script to do it for me and have full knowledge of what the script did, than to deal with the AI.
I think I just realized something…
There are so many people lacking basic coding skills that have so many tasks that could be automated that once they don’t think they have to learn coding to automate, that they just rush toward AI as fast as possible.
aren’t you trying to leave and get a better job?
Have you seen the job market lately?
the job marking is great in lots of sectors. and shitty in others.
it is not generally awful right now. it’s just bad for tech workers.
It’s pretty bad for non tech workers too
My son doesn’t even care enough to cheat
The ones doing this that are graduating are realizing the grave error of their ways.
The ones don’t this aren’t going to graduate as their homework is going to be full of errors and they can’t use genAI during a test.
Unlikely. No one will have enough money to be in that kid’s position.
Parenting problem
Technically also a public education problem, caring more about standardized test scores than checking the student’s actual understanding
As someone who works in public education, I 💯% agree, but do want to add that it’s not the students, parents, teachers, or admins who want that.
Every standardized test we do (and there are a lot of them) is an exhausting and stressful operation that feels more like a distraction from school, rather than an assessment of its efficacy.
The school boards are the policy makers; and at least around here, they’re all gunning for local political offices next, if they’re not already one-foot-on-the-platform.
