In its long-awaited artificial intelligence strategy released Thursday, the Carney government said it will “strengthen its privacy laws to ensure that Canadians’ personal information is not used inappropriately, including for surveillance pricing.” Government officials did not give further details or clarify when asked if that will be an outright ban on the practice.

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    Discounts, sales and similar tactics have worked fine for decades if not centuries, without customers being recorded.

    Their claim is bullshit.

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      Yeah, don’t threaten me with a good time.

      What I want is predictable pricing, not “ten percent off Tuesday, except the third Tuesday of the month…” and all the other BOGO crap where the discount is the real price at other stores and they just gouge you (90 to 100% in the case of BOGOs) the rest of the time.

      You don’t want to give discounts? Don’t give discounts. We’ll be comparing your prices to the competition. Discounts and sales and coupons are just a way to make price comparison harder for the consumers.

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        At Target you can ~10% off when you buy a retail product online for pickup. -You can’t place an online order (even for pickup) without entering all of your contact and billing details…

        I know it’s technically not surveillance pricing, but it’s still incredibly scummy.

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          Target has been pissing me off for years with their “you can’t have your laundry detergent for normal, not double jacked up, price unless you buy $50 in other cleaning supplies at the same time” games. Coupled with their “we aren’t giving you a cash discount, we’re giving you back some of what you just paid us as store credit cards, good luck not losing them…” I started, and the cashiers patiently obliged, dividing my orders to start with what gave me the store cards, then paying for the 2nd part of my order with the store cards from the first part.

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    I think they misunderstand what people are complaining about.
    People don’t want discounts for one person while another gets overcharged. It’s a good thing if it threatens discounts. Everyone wants to pay the same price for the same thing.

    Discounts can be annoying even when they’re “fair”
    It’s annoying when something was discounted yesterday, and now you have to pay more. Or when you just bought something last week, but now you could have saved a bunch because it’s some arbitrary special day. Temporary discounts of any kind are inherently unfair and manipulative.

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      People don’t want discounts for one person while another gets overcharged.

      Yeah, maybe you have more faith in humanity than me, but I think there are tons of people who would be ok with this assuming that they’re the ones getting the discount.

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      They don’t misunderstand at all. They don’t want them forcing the app down their customers throats so they can collect data on their buying habits and sell it. The unfair pricing is just them forcing people without the app to pay unreasonable prices.

      Discounts have a good reason, mostly advertising and some seasonal discounting and lots of storage clearance. So this is fine and to be expected. Nothing unfair about being incentivized to buy seasonal food because its cheaper when its growing in your region at the moment. This is where capitalism gains some efficiency for food distributing. Most stores in Germany announce the discounts up to one week prior, so people can somewhat plan their discounts to save money.

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      Tip: Some stores, realiizing you can return a product and re-buy it at the current discounted price, will retroactively price match themselves within the return window.

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    Oh yeah, that’s the problem… All the companies falling over themselves to give out extra discounts to consumers.

    “Why is the government stopping us from charging our customers LESS??”

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    There have been discounts back in time where retailers did not have personal information on that level. What happened to stickers like “10% off” for all customers?

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      That’s way more expensive than fucking with people too tired and poor to fight back

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    Your “discounts” are being subsidized by someone else’s over charges.

    What ever happened to charging enough to cover your overhead and have middle class life?

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    Sounds like the rich when they threaten to leave if they don’t get their own way. If he gets voted in we will leave.

    If they don’t like it they have every choice leave or not trade.

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    God they’re so transparent.

    “But the discounts we want to give our customers!!!”