I’m not saying Platner’s a comrade. I disagree starkly with him politically. Also, his platform would be materially better than Susan “photo ops with white supremacist militias” Collins.
To make a food analogy: I like a turkey Reuben. Platner is a McDonald’s dollar-menu burger that’s been sitting in the sun all day. Collins is a can of indoor-use DDT pesticide from the '50s.
Neither is what I want to eat, but I only get two choices and I’m gonna be forced to eat one of them. I’m gonna choose the one that’s less likely to immediately harm me.
So long as you’re depending on other people preparing food for you, you’re going to eat the most palatable thing available even if it’s bad. Even if it’s labeled much more appetizing than it ends up tasting. This isn’t even mentioning the fact that, while annoying for you personally to have to pick something you don’t want, it is a decision that has terrible and near irrevocable harm to the global south.
Theres a whole group of people learning how to cook for themselves and teaching others to cook as well. If you don’t like what’s being served, don’t keep going to the restaurant serving DDT pesticides and McDonald’s burgers.
****Brother I am, the camdidates I wanted didn’t come in first in ranked choice. Volunteering, protesting, didn’t win out. Thankfully, we at least have ranked choice.
What am I supposed to do, not vote? Like theres only two people who are realistic to win. I’m gonna puty first choice on a leftist party, but we all understand the mathematical reality of American electoralism mandates two parties and that capitalism has corrupted both.
Platner is likely to be less harmful to the global south. I’m trying to change restaurants, but renouncing citizenship and leaving is easier said than done. Paperwork takes time.
“I keep going to this same restaurant, so realistically all I’m ever going to eat is what they have on the menu”
Go organize. This isn’t the same as joining an angry parade. Talk to your local PSL. Standing outside the restaurant telling them to make better food won’t work since theirs is the only restaurant in town.
I’m not saying not to vote, but I’m also trying to get you to understand that getting stuck in the situation where you feel like voting is your only option doesn’t change the system at all- it changes yourself. Over time, it erodes your values until you are what you would’ve detested 20 years ago. One day, you’ll develop a liking for DDT pesticides because the alternative is nuclear waste.
You’re only forced to vote for the nazi because you would rather do that than organize for an alternative system. Voting for a Nazi is easy. Organizing and changing this system entirely isn’t.
I’m trying to change restaurants, but renouncing citizenship and leaving is easier said than done.
I’m not telling you to change restaurants. Other restaurants likely have the same issues you want to leave this one for. I’m telling you to be the restaurant. And just to be doubly clear, I’m not telling you to run for office. I don’t want you to be an option for other people to pick from. I want you to work with an international community of chefs to build the best fuckin sandwich we’ve ever had.
At no point did I say I’m not engaging in organization. I do, and I think i do so quite effectively. I will also vote for Platner, because the alternative is to effectively vote for both Platner and Collins. My vote will be counted either way, mathematically speaking.
You’ve already hinted that you desire to or plan on leaving, so why do you care if someone carrying out white supremacy through military action beats out someone carrying out white supremacy through legislative action by voting to ensure the person who carried out white supremacy through military action newfound access to legislative power? Both deserve [redacted], not a vote.
I’m (genuinely, curiously) interested in the logic for not voting at all.
As I see it, mathematically speaking, my vote is counted either way. The election outcome not being influenced by my lack of vote is effectively giving half my vote to each candidate, for a net zero.
As I see it, given it’s going to be counted either way, I’d rather it be counted for the candidate closer to my preferences.
Comrade, what would you recommend I do with that 45 minutes on a workday other than vote?
Liberals when they shield their delicate eyes from clear and actionable items to make the world a better place and resort to vaguely rephrasing and omitting things until it is meaningless to them.
I’m not saying Platner’s a comrade. I disagree starkly with him politically. Also, his platform would be materially better than Susan “photo ops with white supremacist militias” Collins.
To make a food analogy: I like a turkey Reuben. Platner is a McDonald’s dollar-menu burger that’s been sitting in the sun all day. Collins is a can of indoor-use DDT pesticide from the '50s.
Neither is what I want to eat, but I only get two choices and I’m gonna be forced to eat one of them. I’m gonna choose the one that’s less likely to immediately harm me.
So long as you’re depending on other people preparing food for you, you’re going to eat the most palatable thing available even if it’s bad. Even if it’s labeled much more appetizing than it ends up tasting. This isn’t even mentioning the fact that, while annoying for you personally to have to pick something you don’t want, it is a decision that has terrible and near irrevocable harm to the global south.
Theres a whole group of people learning how to cook for themselves and teaching others to cook as well. If you don’t like what’s being served, don’t keep going to the restaurant serving DDT pesticides and McDonald’s burgers.
****Brother I am, the camdidates I wanted didn’t come in first in ranked choice. Volunteering, protesting, didn’t win out. Thankfully, we at least have ranked choice.
What am I supposed to do, not vote? Like theres only two people who are realistic to win. I’m gonna puty first choice on a leftist party, but we all understand the mathematical reality of American electoralism mandates two parties and that capitalism has corrupted both.
Platner is likely to be less harmful to the global south. I’m trying to change restaurants, but renouncing citizenship and leaving is easier said than done. Paperwork takes time.
“I keep going to this same restaurant, so realistically all I’m ever going to eat is what they have on the menu”
Go organize. This isn’t the same as joining an angry parade. Talk to your local PSL. Standing outside the restaurant telling them to make better food won’t work since theirs is the only restaurant in town.
I’m not saying not to vote, but I’m also trying to get you to understand that getting stuck in the situation where you feel like voting is your only option doesn’t change the system at all- it changes yourself. Over time, it erodes your values until you are what you would’ve detested 20 years ago. One day, you’ll develop a liking for DDT pesticides because the alternative is nuclear waste.
You’re only forced to vote for the nazi because you would rather do that than organize for an alternative system. Voting for a Nazi is easy. Organizing and changing this system entirely isn’t.
I’m not telling you to change restaurants. Other restaurants likely have the same issues you want to leave this one for. I’m telling you to be the restaurant. And just to be doubly clear, I’m not telling you to run for office. I don’t want you to be an option for other people to pick from. I want you to work with an international community of chefs to build the best fuckin sandwich we’ve ever had.
At no point did I say I’m not engaging in organization. I do, and I think i do so quite effectively. I will also vote for Platner, because the alternative is to effectively vote for both Platner and Collins. My vote will be counted either way, mathematically speaking.
You’ve already hinted that you desire to or plan on leaving, so why do you care if someone carrying out white supremacy through military action beats out someone carrying out white supremacy through legislative action by voting to ensure the person who carried out white supremacy through military action newfound access to legislative power? Both deserve [redacted], not a vote.
a) yes, but more importantly
b) organize with local socialist organisations, read theory, meet people in a political space and start doing something.
I’m (genuinely, curiously) interested in the logic for not voting at all.
As I see it, mathematically speaking, my vote is counted either way. The election outcome not being influenced by my lack of vote is effectively giving half my vote to each candidate, for a net zero.
As I see it, given it’s going to be counted either way, I’d rather it be counted for the candidate closer to my preferences.
Comrade, what would you recommend I do with that 45 minutes on a workday other than vote?
I think you’re ignoring the psychic damage you’re doing to yourself by voting for bloodthirsty demons.
You’ll legitimately feel better if you vote for someone you actually like, even if you have to write it in yourself.
write in the candidate you like; it can be anyone.
or that
A. Don’t vote.
B. Do something.
Wtf are you talking about?
Liberals when they shield their delicate eyes from clear and actionable items to make the world a better place and resort to vaguely rephrasing and omitting things until it is meaningless to them.
Yup exactly what this comrade said.
You’re on a .ml instance, they absolutely think not voting is somehow a great idea.
I recommend stickjng to a diverse portfolio of strategies if you want to live in a better world.