• WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Just means the age of the console is over. Consoles used to have three purposes: They were easy to use, provided good value for performance and allowed you to use physical media. Now that gaming PCs aren’t tied to Windows anymore people can make UIs for them that are actually good, we passed the point of diminishing returns for graphical fidelity long ago so performance doesn’t matter so much (unless you’re playing a horribly un-optimized game, which unfortunately a lot of AAA games are, but most of those games are also just regurgitated formulas from a decade+ ago) and now that physical media is dying we can finally stop buying locked-down, proprietary, single-purposes boxes for our games.

    About time, really.

    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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      Sony consoles were usually also good multimedia machines. PS3 was one of the best Blu-ray players you could get and even at 599 US Dollars you’d still save like $500. The PSP came years before the iPhone as a handheld multimedia machine (with its own app store to boot). Now that every TV and phone is a spy box you subscribe to, they lost another function

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    Sony was never the good guy. None of them are. I’m not sure where this idea that executives and CEOs are on our side just because they tweeted some bullshit that sounded good without details.

    The gaming industry is so off the charts right now and rife with corporate corruption that it needs to be regulated PROPERLY by a DEDICATED government entity. It’s a hurt market and is mostly left to the wolves.

    That said, Sony has a long track record of being stupid.

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      Not just gaming. All industries.

      It’s capitalism. Capitalism is institutionalized greed. These greedy cunts think they’re just being, “good businessmen”.

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      6 hours ago

      Unfortunately, the government was never the good guy, either. It’s meant to be a voice for the people, but it almost never is. We need to become educated enough as an entire population to keep companies in line ourselves, because governments side with corporations more often than not.

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        The government is supposed to be that mechanism, but idiots keep being paid to think that capitalism is best, and the industries should regulate themselves because the pros know better, and that’s totally why lobbying is a good idea and not literally legalized bribery!

        The governments suck because we let the bad people get away with their greed, and now they’ve bought their way deep into governments. Governments don’t serve the people solely because good people do not know how to be bad to bad people. … and that greedy fuckhead capitalists are also bad people.

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      Idk I remember a time when Sony was the least bad guy. Back when ps3 came out, you didn’t need a subscription for online play, and you could actually browse the web (poorly, but, somebody tried. I remember when my laptop shit the bed and I used my ps3 to submit an assignment on blackboard in 2008). I thought that was pretty cool. Not that Sony was good; the profit motive was there, and the second they saw Xbox requiring a subscription for online play, you best believe they built plus overnight. But, there was a time when good people got good ideas snuck past bad company management I guess.

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        Sony included literal viruses with their music CDs in the 90s that exploited your computer when you inserted the disk to disable burning CDs.

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    The PlayStation line exists entirely out of spite. Sony didn’t start it because they liked video games or even because they wanted to be part of the market. It exists entirely because Sony wanted to screw Nintendo over after being screwed over by Nintendo. When an entire product line exists for spite at a company like Sony, that has already taken people to task over betas and DACs, for instance, it’s never going to be something that is sustainable because now that they have ‘beaten’ Nintendo they don’t know what to do with the product line.

    This is pretty much what’s happening to Xbox right now too, the only reason Xbox exists is because Bill Gates had a small obsession with getting Microsoft into the living room and since Xbox was a passion project and now nobody who had that passion works at Microsoft anymore they don’t know what to do with it and are just ringing it dry for money.

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      Fun fact! Sony wanted to screw over Nintendo not because they were screwed over by Nintendo, but because they were humiliated by Nintendo.

      Sony was trying to screw Nintendo over in the first place, Nintendo realized it, pulled out, and Sony threw a hissy fit.

      The tl;dr: is that Sony basically wanted distribution rights for IPs that were published on CDs. Nintendo initially thought Sony meant as in ‘we want to be able to distribute stuff published on CDs’ which makes sense… but Nintendo’s lawyers realized at the last second that Sony meant ‘Anything that is published on CD, we now own that IP’s distribution rights entirely

      As in, if a Zelda game was ever published on CD, Nintendo literally could not ever publish a Zelda game without Sony’s approval. Defacto ownership of the Zelda IP, though not actual ownership.

      Considering Nintendo was literally currently dealing with Sony extorting them over the dev kits for the Sony sound chip in the SNES, Nintendo very wisely walked away from that, and pivoted to Philips. (Sony and Philips jointly created the CD standard.)

      While the CD-I was obviously a failure, this whole thing was a MASSIVE embarrassment to Sony, because they had already been doing the industry equivalent of bragging about the deal (which they shouldn’t have been, because it wasn’t finalized yet). Them yapping about it is also how Nintendo’s lawyers realized that Sony was basically trying to do a hostile takeover of all of Nintendo’s IPs. Needless to say, Nintendo was (rightly, imo) pissed.

      And then Sony had the gall to complain about Nintendo like THEY were the bad guys, setting a narrative for years.

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        Yeah, that’s why I brought up DACs and Betas (and linked the SNES CD article), Sony has been trying for decades to own the current popular format itself. What’s been funny to me is they finally succeeded with Blu-ray and now it’s not even been 20 years and they’re ready to throw in the towel. Even betas were manufactured for nearly 50 years and they lost their format war. What was even more embarrassing to Sony is not just that Sony and Phillips had jointly created the CD standard, it’s that Sony had had to deal with Phillips after losing to Phillips on cassettes and then again on DACs (Phillips version being the DCC, which in the end also lost to CD). As well Phillips was readily working with JVC who had made VHS.

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    Sony was never on our side.

    E.G. Warframe is fully cross platform. You have an icon showing beside the player name if they are on the same platform as you, or a generic one if they aren’t.

    When the system launched, it showed unique icons per platform. Sony demanded that be changed because of the incredibly petty reasoning that if an xbox player beat a PS one in pvp

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      Idk if that’s the actual justification behind it, but IIRC, not showing other platforms logos is just a technical requirement.

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        No, I played when that happened.

        They launched it with icons for nintendo switch, xbox, PC and playstation.

        Within a week they had to hotfix to the generic icons for stated reason because “Sony was worried about the meme potential of an xbox player beating a PS player in PVP.” That was stated as the reason in one of their weekly livestreams.

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          Obviously it’s a legal requirement but I’m 99% sure it was also on the TRC. Like, even if you were to obtain the proper license to these symbols from Microsoft, Sony wouldn’t allow you to use them on their systems.

          IIRC Xbox were way less anal about this too.

  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    6 hours ago

    Xbox shat the bed too hard and they didn’t have to compete anymore. The market consolidated. Don’t let markets consolidate.