The neighbor said emergency responders worked quickly – but they did not seem panicked.
“In a situation where perhaps time is of the essence, there seems to be a little bit more urgency, but there was no urgency here,” the neighbor told CNN.
When the emergency vehicles left the street, the neighbor said their sirens were not on.
Moscow Mitch is possibly the man who did more damage to our country than anyone else. The Trump administration is his victory, just with someone he couldn’t control and actually turned his constituency against him.
Trump is an evil SOB and the US is worse for having him as a president… but I’ll at least say one good thing about him, if you poke your head in conservative circles, they have as much respect for the turtle as the left. And I love that for Mitch. May his legacy forever be mired in shit.
As someone who’s not from the US, can u give me a TLDR of what he did?
I can’t write up a better TLDR than one of the other responses, they hit the major base points, there’s just so much more.
What I’ll explain is the level of power he wielded because frankly, a lot of US citizens don’t realize the mechanisms he used so I’m not sure being out of the US would know.
McConnelll was essentially the leader of the Republican Party all throughout Obama’s administration, and with such he pushed the Republicans to be pure oppositional on EVERYTHING because he noted that Dems working with Bush on No Child Left Behind and Medicare Part D helped Bush get reelected. So McConnell’s statements were “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” and “if [Obama is] willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.” The man literally said about our debt “it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming”
I’d like to note that when Trump became President, suddenly McConnell was all about putting politics aside and working together as unity to help (his view of) the country.
Now when he got Senate Majority Leader, that meant he had a lot of power. With our system, a law has to go through both Congress and Senate before being signed by the President. And when the President picks positions like judges, the Legislative branch also confirms them. The Senate Majority Leader gets to choose what comes to the floor. So Obama wants some judges… nah, we’re not going to vote on them and let that expire so we can stack it when a Republican President comes in power. This is why Obama became a big user of Executive Orders (essentially the President creating orders that aren’t laws in that the next President can just tear them down, which Trump did, but since the Executive Branch enforces them they essentially become laws in their own way. It’s more complicated than that but by that point I don’t have the law degree to explain better) which the Republicans whined SO MUCH about… and went strangely silent when Trump started using them.
I’d also like to note, McConnell voted to convict and remove Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial, but when Trump’s first one came up he actively denied four witnesses from coming to the floor “I’m not an impartial juror [in this impeachment trial]. This is a political process. There’s not anything judicial about it.” And despite being outspoken about Trump’s attempt to overturn the election for Biden (only after Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol) and stating that he supported Trump’s impeachment, he refused to call an emergency meeting of the Senate for the trial, calling for delaying it after Biden’s inauguration, then voted to acquit Trump by stating it was unconstitutional to convict a President who was no longer in office. He went on a 20 minute tirade about how he thought Trump was guilty “If President Trump were still in office, I would have carefully considered whether the House managers proved their specific charge.” and stated that Trump didn’t get away with it because he’d still be subject to the US criminal and civil laws.
Of course McConnell would filibuster and vote against an independent commission to investigate the Jan 6 US Capitol attack.
And back throughout Biden’s administration, it was back to pure obstructionism, nothing else.
McConnell became a senator a year before I was alive, and has wielded an entire party of our country until it took a demagogue who hated him to turn the party against him. According to his biographers, Alec MacGillis, McConnell went “from a moderate Republican who supported abortion rights and public employee unions to the embodiment of partisan obstructionism and conservative orthodoxy on Capitol Hill.”
… well this was supposed to be a short writeup… but that didn’t work. And I still feel like a lot got left out.
Not OP, but I hate Mitch so much I looked up a write up.
He held up not just the supreme court nomination from Obama (and rushed one through for trump). He held up many nominations to federal judges for Obama. He waited for trump to get in and then packed the federal courts with more heritage foundation approved judges.
Personally, I hate him because one time when the federal gov shutdown over a budget under Obama. They stopped paying the military. The house passed a partial that would have the troops get paid. McConnell decided not to vote on it because Fuck Him.
All that shit he and his fellow repubs say about supporting the troops. Not one of the repubs in the Senate called him out on it. If they supported the troops they would have called him out. We still had to work. I still had to make sure me and my Marines got ready for deployment. The bills we had to pay still were due. Their kids still need to be feed. Fuck Mitch and fuck all the repubs that claim to support troops but just support the military industry complex and the kickback donations.
I couldn’t do a better write up myself. And I love that’s the “17 worst things” because… there’s… so… so much.
The thing is… from the beginning the man was a snake. Look up his early politics in his state, he jumped in to get the unions to support him, gladhanded them, shook their hands, said he supported them. Then the second he took power he immediately stabbed the unions in the back, with an attitude of it’s just a cost of doing business.
He’s the opposite side of the coin from Trump of as a man with zero scruples, but where Trump’s entire desire is to make himself richer and more powerful, McConnell was a True Believer of his world view of the Conservative Christian view, and would do anything no matter how slimy if it pushed his world view forward.
would do anything no matter how slimy if it pushed his world view forward.
This is a good point. He had no shame being a hypocrite. He walked so trump could run. People doing evil things without shame allowed the other evil people, that normally would respond to shame, to grow more corrupt.
Don’t forget that once you’re out, the first people to screw over veterans, in any country really, are conservatives. They got their worth out of you and if you die in the streets that’s a you problem.
Abused the Senate traditions to advance his party for decades, culminating in a refusal to see dem nominations to the supreme court and then fast tracking repub nominees resulting in the lopsided court that has accelerated the collapse of equal rights in the usa and the speedy rise of corpofascism
That man is dead unless he gets up in front of his constituents and says otherwise. Maintaining that he is alive to “protect his seat” is criminal and those responsible should be put to the sword.
In a situation where perhaps time is of the essence, there seems to be a little bit more urgency, but there was no urgency here.
Same reasoning applies with a corpse.
I work in 911 dispatch, different areas and agencies may handle things a little differently but where I work we give our incidents a priority from 1-5, with 1 being the highest
For EMS, priority 1 is things like cardiac arrests, shootings, stuff where the person has a very real chance of dying any second.
2 is most of the things you’d expect people to call an ambulance for, they do need to be seen in a hospital for and relatively quickly, but you’re not immediately in danger of expiring.
3 is the stuff that you probably could have called around to a couple friends for a ride or called an Uber or something for or maybe driven yourself to urgent care. Like sure, you probably want to see a doctor about that, but it’s not really that urgent, if you waited until tomorrow you’d probably be no worse off than you are today and in some cases you probably could have slept it off.
4 is basically for psych issues. You’re basically completely physically healthy and stable, you’re just cuckoo for coco puffs. The only way you’re going to die on the ambulance ride over is if it gets T-boned by a semi truck, or you annoy the crew so much that they throw you out the back of the ambulance while doing 70mph down the highway.
Which brings us to class 5. You’re dead. You’re obviously dead and no amount of life-saving measures are going to bring you back. Usually they’re not even going to actually take you away in an ambulance, they’re just going to say someone with medical training can go “yep, that’s a corpse” in case the cops on-scene are even dumber than usual and didn’t see you breathing, they’re going to throw a white sheet over you and let the coroner come around later to scrape you up. Unless you’re Mitch McConnell apparently.
So McConnell would be what, somewhere between 11 and 30?
What if his death was to be kept secret? Do VIPs get any priority? I would think in the situation being implied, they wouldn’t follow standard procedure. It’s all just conjecture… but these people are so vile and lie so freely that it is the first thing a lot of people including myself think of.
As far as VIPs getting priority, the only thing that comes to my mind that I’ve come across is one old rich guy with a note attached to his address with instructions that for basically any medical calls there can be directly airlifted to one of the big hospitals downtown
He’s loaded, lives almost right across from a small airport that one of our medevac helicopters fly out of, and made his fortune in some sort of healthcare/health insurance something-or-other (I’m fuzzy on the details of, but he was one of the big players in that field probably 30-40 years ago)
We have a handful of other pretty rich and influential people in my area, and I’ve gotten calls from and regarding a couple of them (nothing too crazy) but at least from my end of things there’s not a whole lot of special treatment going on. What special instructions the cops and other field units have isnt something I’m privy to.
made his fortune in some sort of healthcare/health insurance something-or-other
“Oops, he fell out of the chopper. There was nothing we could do.”
I’d imagine it’s more about physical access. Bitch McConnell likely had multiple handlers and staff present. Hell maybe even a doctor. For a medical call like that I’m imagining emergency personnel come in a little differently than if it was a from a gun fight. Staff could shield the scene from any journalists or the such and try to control the situation a bit.
Would either a code 3 or 5 match the eyewitness description? Anything that might be unique as far as how the ambulance would leave the scene between those two codes?
I luckily haven’t been on-scene with a lot of EMS calls, I work from a bunker that’s usually miles away from where the action is taking place, so take thoughts on this for what they’re worth, I’m a bit outside of my area of expertise, and I don’t have a lot of details to go on so I don’t really want to speculate here, but I’ll leave some thoughts.
Also, just to reiterate, the class 1,2,3,4,5 terminology is what my agency uses, things can vary a lot from one place to another, and I certainly can’t speak for the policies and training and such that are in place anywhere else.
But an unconscious person is basically always going class 1 or 2 unless they were already a vegetable and it’s normal for them to be unconscious, but honestly even then it would probably be class 2 unless they really just need an ambulance to move them from point a to b and there’s not actually any other medical issues going on. They’re going to be going with some sense of urgency and leaving with lights and sirens.
If he was, in fact in cardiac arrest that is absolutely class 1 material. They’d be doing CPR on him or shocking him with a defibrillator as they’re going, he’d probably be intubated and they’d be ventilating him with a bag, I assume EMS in whatever town he lives in probably have some pretty good equipment so they’d probably have a LUCAS device to do chest compressions for them, etc.
I was actually on-scene with a cardiac arrest after a motorcycle accident once, helped perform CPR on someone until the ambulance arrived. I don’t think EMS was on-scene for 5 minutes before they were speeding off with the guy with lights and sirens going and a LUCAS strapped to his chest. I never looked up the call, but I would bet good money that that guy didn’t make it, but it was still fresh enough that there was a tiny chance and so he went class 1.
Hypothetically if they were able to restore a normal pulse with a defibrillator or whatever else they might have in their bag of tricks these days, it might go class 2, but that would still be high priority.
I can’t imagine any situation where they’re taking a patient who is unconscious and normally isn’t any less than a class 2 unless they’re dead.
From the short clip, and based off of the descriptions, it’s hard for me to say much. They’re certainly not running with the stretcher, but that could just be them being calm and professional, you don’t really want to be jolting the patient around after all, and they’re not exactly pussy-footing around, but still I don’t know if I’m seeing the kind of urgency I’d expect. If they did in fact leave without sirens, that’s really not jiving with the class 1 or 2 I’d expect for an unconscious patient, that sounds like 3, 4, or 5. It could be that they turned them on once they left the neighborhood, that’s not unheard of to avoid disturbing neighbors and causing a scene if there’s no traffic in the neighborhood for them to have to get through.
Yes, that’s the entire point here for anyone who may be confused.
Yeah, but this is a shit take anyway. They would have stabilized him before taking him to the ambulance even if he was in cardiac arrest, so there wouldn’t have been a sense of urgency either way.
Not saying he’s alive, but this line of reasoning doesn’t tell us shit
that’s the implication, yup
Maybe they were just not hasty about it because they knew who it was
Corpses dont need oxygen masks either.
He’s passed on! This Senator is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s kicked the bucket. He’s shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible.
THIS IS AN EX-SENATOR!
No no, he’s resting. Just look at his plumage!!
I believe the term is brumating.
Well we’d better replace him then
Sorry I’ve had a look around and we’re out of senators.
The state should declare him dead and move on.
And yes, haha I get the reference.
Ex turtle
No his alive to me \s
You know we’ve gone full 1984 dystopia when the fucking Senate Majority Leader stands there with a straight face and claims he had a conversation with McConnell about national security of all things (as if you’d really expect them to discuss that), and all the reporters just parrot what he said as unquestioned fact. And no one will bat an eye or ever mention his blatant lying, when it comes out that McConnell was dead the whole time.
So they brought a secure phone to the hospital? And made sure nobody in the hospital could hear!
Bullshit.
We are currently clean on OPSEC
DOA
Do HIPAA protections still exist after the person is dead?
Hey! Cybersecurity professional here who also deals with HIPAA regularly. Two things -
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Thanks for spelling HIPAA correctly, so many people get it wrong.
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Yes, HIPAA covers you for 50 years after you die, so you still have the same protections in place as if you were living for that long after you kick the bucket.
So in other words, the GOP will admit Mitch McConnell is dead in 2076.
Mitch for president 2029 😨
I’d take a bloated corpse over the bloated turd we have today.
they’re both bloated corpses. one just emits a great deal more hot air.
No, they would not tell the truth.
Actually, next January.
Hungry Hungry HIPPAs
now I wonder what interesting person died 50 years ago so I can snoop on their private medical files.
Always cool when someone with material knowledge can chime in, thanks for explaining! ☺️❤️
If they don’t cover you for 50 years after your death then I guess you have grounds to file a lawsuit.
Always go to other people’s funerals; otherwise they won’t go to yours.
Thanks for spelling HIPAA correctly, so many people get it wrong.
I always confuse what the HIP stands for, but always remember the last two are “Accountability Act” so “AA” at the end is easy to remember.
It’s Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, for others curious.
And yes, that’s a great way to remember it. Especially so because that’s where many typically get it wrong. I see it called HIPPA all the time.
It looks like death certificates have a similar 50 year privacy period in Kentucky.
Are those not public records?
Excuse me but its speled HIPPO smafh
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Witnesses who aren’t involved in entities covered by HIPAA can say whatever they want.
Still applies for 50 years from death.
TIL HIPAA
One of the rare times breaking HIPAA would be worth it. Anyone there, anyone, break it, break it wide open. Think about it, doae this monster diserve privacy? He is a public official. He does not get the right to privacy. People will protect you and support you. do it.
People should be in the streets at Kentucky lawmakers homes right now.
This is insanity.
I mean… thats the only way you get into an ambulance.
They aint gonna fuckin loony toons bar bouncer you into the back of the ambulance from 20 feet away.
It would be a lot funnier, though
I mean, a non-hurried loading in a stretcher is also what happens when a case isn’t immediately life-threatening but still requires medical attention
Don’t they usually put people in body bags before loading if they’re already declared dead?
Is this in poor taste? FUCK THAT AND FUCK MITCH MCCONNELL, ROT IN HELL YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
I’m sorry I’ve had a rough day.
I still stand by what I said tho.
Dead and smelly yes dead not alwaysn especially if their county says only docs can pronounce until then they just sorta try their best to do something until they get to the hospital and trade them over.
Unfortunately, his existence or lack there of is irrelevant to the future of the country. He’s a tool and will die regrettably well-accomplished in his task.
It seems that, depending on when it’s announced, and which KY laws take precedent, it could matter.
Ah, if only it was a hearse.
Rot In Piss
