• LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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    While Depp is far from a great person, he is also directly a victim of sexism. Putting him on this list means you do not understand how men can be victims, too.

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        lol. lmao. Good job demonstrating how you know literally nothing about the months long lawsuit against Heard.

        Again, Depp is no saint, but if you think he was victimizing Heard… You are braindead.

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        Tbh it stuns me that people are willing to believe that a relative nobody half his age actually abused him without fairly extraordinary evidence. We really have a long way to go. Even in ostensibly left leaning communities, men tie themselves into pretzels to assist abusers.

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          Yes. It is painful but it’s good to see someone fighting the good fight. Stay strong. We will win.

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            yeah, probably not online though. Best to just block maladjusted chuds convinced men are the real victims in everything and focus your energy on real stuff ❤️ although I’m glad I got to connect with you over it, that part was cool

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    Don’t two of these people have multiple accusers across some amount of time, while one has a disgruntled ex-wife, who was found liable for defamation for her claims?

    I had covid during the Depp-Heard trial and ended up watching the whole thing. I recommend watching both of Amber’s testimonies to anyone who feels like believing the mainstream media narrative on the entire spectacle. Nothing dispels belief in her accusations quite as quickly as watching her recount her story.

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      That whole mess was a complicated tangle of a clusterfuck and neither of them came out of it clean.

      Regardless, all his shit, especially with Marilyn Manson, makes me think he’s a gross fucking creep. I wouldn’t want to be alone with him.

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        I honestly don’t know know enough about a Manson connection to have an informed opinion.

        Unfortunately I find that after Amber Heard, I’m more likely to need some supporting evidence or corroboration in any celebrity cases to feel comfortable expressing a view in any direction.

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      the mainstream media narrative

      The victim complex of this guy LOL. You got manipulated into siding with the wifebeater Johnny Depp. Live up to it.

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        As I said, please go and watch nothing but Amber’s own words in the trial. They’re readily available on YouTube.

        I had no interest in the case before I was fully wiped out by covid for several weeks and ended up watching the entire trial. I don’t have an opinion on on the two of them as actors and I don’t follow Hollywood anything, really. I hadn’t even heard of the whole thing before my sister suggested watching the opening statements when I complained about not having the energy to do anything but rot.

        It’s a little sad, in my opinion, that leftist spaces are so heavily against any critical view of this case. I have no problem with believing victims and taking immediate steps to protect them. But when majority of the evidence points to her words being outright lies, I struggle to reconcile that with a world-view based on critical thinking.

        If all neutral (as in unconnected to either one of the parties) witnesses give an extremely different account than one party, wouldn’t you conclude that that person is not being truthful?

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        Pretty sure that whole thing was two rich cunts fighting. They both looked like pieces of shit out for vengeance that entire time.

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    I came here to find out who the one on the right is, but all I can find is OP arguing about Depp being an abuser and Heard being a victim, and everyone downvoting each other

    And a Cyberman joke, which was funny

    Who is the chud on the right?

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      Depp was found guilty of being a wifebeater in court, btw.

      Edit: But you are right and I agree entirely!

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          Kinda feels like you just wanted to talk about Depp being a POS

          He is one. So, yeah.

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          He actually did not. Out of the two of them, Amber was found to be liable for defamation for her accusations. Depp was found liable for his lawyer’s words on specific facts about whether or not police were called a second time in a specific incident where Depp was not present, and no injuries were documented by the police.

          Depp lost a defamation suit against the Sun for calling him a wife beater, because the judge found it to be enough due diligence for the Sun to have believed Amber.
          In that trial, Amber was a witness not a party, and as such did not need to go through an adverse process or submit to rigorous cross-examination. Yet she still submitted, I think, seven iterations of her written testimony, because it kept having parts of it fully disproven by other witnesses or proven facts. Due to the different system in the UK, that was apparently fine.
          I’m not well versed in the Sun/Depp case, because it was not a public casem and all I’ve seen are a few court documents. The Depp/Heard trial is available on YouTube and I recommend just watching Amber’s testimony to anyone who is too busy to watch several weeks of trial. Her own words were plenty to disillusion me, at the very least.