The families of US soldiers who have died in the US-Israeli war against Iran are battling to ensure they receive appropriate pay and benefits for their loved ones.
Libby Klinner, a widow, wrote on social media that the US air force had deemed her ineligible for additional benefits following the death of Major Alex Klinner, her 33-year-old husband, because Congress had not officially declared war.
He was one of six crew members of a KC-135 refuelling aircraft that crashed in western Iraq in March while supporting US strikes against Iran.
Imagine joining the US military.
The department of war, at war? How ridiculous.
JD Vance gets asked about the widows case and he responds to the journalist “send me her contact info so I can discuss it with her” as if he isn’t the second most powerful person in his country and already has full access to all of the info but doesn’t care. If they have to start paying out benefits to dead soldiers it might become more clear how many service members have actually died.
There are likely more fatalities of American soldiers but they are hiding them behind mission secrecy.
You all elected a conman and then act surprised after being conned?
MAGA winning all over the place!
Did you make it to the end where I said he was a shitty prez? Or did you just need to re-state the obvious?
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Think about the bright side: If all countries stop using the term “war”, then we’ve achieved world peace!! /s
You jest, but this is exactly what trump would do.
Would? Doesn’t the “Board of Peace” exist?
Illegal, shameful, and un-American.
Seems pretty American to me
America Eats Its Young.
Other people’s too.
Yes. We know about trump. But what about the article?
You also can’t lose a war if it isn’t a war! 😅
That’s how they avoid saying they haven’t won a war since WW2.
Military coup when?
monkey paw curls Palantir performs the coup
Only if so many military personnel would not be MAGA… So not gonna happen.
I’ve said it forever: Screwing over veterans is more American than apple pie. We’ve been doing it since the American Revolution.
I can’t imagine President Pedophile being the one to change that. He doesn’t even care enough to pretend.
He actively distains troops and veterans.
He’s a draft dodger himself. They’re only pawns in his scheme to enrich himself and the capital class. It’s been the same with every president since WWII.
This is what happens when you prop your economy up on war and petroleum. You have to fight constant wars to maintain it. You have to keep heating up the planet until it’s unliveable.
The Great Depression proved that capitalism is a bubble that can’t sustain itself without constant exploitation of fossil fuels and the military-industrial complex. The second hit took place with the oil shortages and stagflation of the 1970s.
Huh? Didn’t know the Americans had that little clause. My SDB is paid out to my spouse regardless of whether I die in a war.
For Americans, something like the Servicemembers Group Life Insurance (SGLI) pays out regardless of how you snuff it but you have to be paying for that one already and you decide the level.
What they didn’t pay out is combat pay, or “Hazardous Duty Pay” which is based on where you’re deployed to. Since the person in question was Air Force though, and doing missions over various areas, that creates a situation where you can be deployed in support of combat operations but in a “friendly” area and not receiving combat pay.
Based on the article, they still got the last paycheck and other stuff, they just got a few hundred less for dying in support of Operation Protect the Pedophiles.
play stupid games win stupid prizes
They keep the masses poor and dumb so that they volunteer to play stupid games.
And by propaganda at sports events for their tribal minds, the same control mentality and punching down is common among those groups, sports, military, supernatural, maga, etc.
Fucking disgusting Russia-tier semantics.
America doing a thing its done since its literal founding
libs: What are we a bunch of filthy foreigners??
I guess the ends meet…
please stop joining the military
I 100% agree. But also, some folks have little choice as it’s the only path they have out of poverty. Could be their only chance for a decent education too.
Edit: I understand the backlash I’m getting. But I also realize that poverty produces desperation, and desperation can push people to extreme decisions. Easy for me to say “don’t ever join under any circumstances” when I’m not the one suffering in extreme poverty.
Lots of people here probably don’t deal with poor people on the regular so they don’t understand. Once I talked to a 40 year old homeless man on a train ride home and he was talking about enlisting. His options were very bleak.
I grew up in an area where that was absolutely the case. A whole lot of people on things like food stamps and so on.
I don’t have exact numbers, but I’d say at least one in four males (and not a few females) went into some branch of the military. They are promised a lot and most of it is not delivered.
My parents were pacifists and extremely suspicious of the industrial military complex, and did everything possible to keep the recruiters at bay, while they scrimped and saved and got loans for my siblings and I to get a secondary education or vocational training. They were not rich, but given they were both gainfully employed and very frugal, we were in a more stable home than most in my area.
Many kids did not even graduate, there was a fair bit of teen pregnancy, too. I have the same suspicion of the military my parents had, but I also understand that many of my school mates did not have a lot of options.
the “have little choice” is just being able to shift guilt. we 100% know this is a genocidal fascist regime, and i have more support for someone who chooses to be gifted “life’s plan” of hardship over joining this mil.
fyi: this is the plan. the capitalists who profit from war know they can only profit if there is a cohort of poor, hungry, stupid kids they can use for the human parts.
they can use for the human parts.
If you want people to take you seriously, you could make less childish arguments.
Are you upset that you can’t refute the 100% accurate point?
The troops are pretty much there to go kill or die for some billionaire’s profits, and Smedley Butler said as much decades ago and it’s only gotten worse since. Once they get the killer robots working, they’ll cut out the troops and not have to worry about people complaining about pay.
explain how this is childish. machines like weapons require people to operate. it’s always been the working class and poor who are scooped up to operate them. “ain’t no war but class war” is not just a bumper sticker.
so: try your reply again.
Becoming a disposable weapon of the state is still a choice, they still have blood on their hands, whether or not the game is rigged to coerce desperate people into becoming murderers or cannon fodder
If the only path out of poverty is killing poor people abroad then I’d rather stay poor.
You’re probably not poor then
I’d rather be poor than murder people 🤷♂️
Are you poor?
Are most people who join the US military? Answer: no, the contemporary US military is overwhelmingly middle class. The “backdoor draft” isn’t nearly as popular as advertised.
I was when I was enlistment age, and I told the recruiter to go fuck himself when they came asking, and then to go find a squadmate to assist if he couldnt follow the directions himself when he didn’t like the first answer.
I had enough combat vets in my life to know what was up. No glory seekers, only people who saw the brutality fist hand.
yes.
Honestly, if it’s this bad, why is this put up with?
For a country that has spent so much time telling others how free it is, its citizens take a lot of shit
If it’s that bad, no point waiting around any longer, shut the thing down.
All you gotta do is tell people they’re free.
Then you place them in freedom shackles, and give them freedom bucks to trade around inside their freedom cage. Why do you hate freedom so much, don’t you like your freedom slop?
The most cutting scene in Easy Rider. I reference this often, but for a reason.
The military is never anyone’s only choice out of poverty. The military is a career you choose. Just because you were in poverty when you made that choice does not mean you didn’t have other choices.
Officer grades…sure.
Rank and file… Nah. Not if you want OUT of poverty.
TBH mostly middle class people join the military, and a lot of them end up homeless afterwards. Your conception of this situation is basically backwards.
The Israeli-US Alliance essentially murdered Iranian schoolgirls.
Essentially?
Sorry i have to kill brown people. Some rape is expected, but i really didn’t have a choice.
Its not worth it.
Id rather see them in poverty than more dead girls abroad. We should start spitting on their faces again.
Sadly, there is no historical evidence that anyone ever spat in the faces of returning veterans, that’s just a scene from Rambo that conservatives decided was reality.
Sorry I had to serve in the SS cuz it was the only path I had out of poverty, for a chance at a decent education too, I 100% hate those Nazis please don’t put us on trial 🥺
The US military isn’t the SS.
You’re right, it’s worse, the SS “only” massacred and tortured Europe, the US Military does it to the entire world, biggest stain on the planet since the Nazis.
Not for the lack of trying.
