I am a big fan of Tesla. The cars are amazing. Generally I respect Elon, who has a track record of success. I support unions but I would never join one.
I think this is the best quote from the article.
“I don’t know, maybe they will unionize,” he mused. “If Tesla gets unionized it will be because we deserved it, and because we failed in some way.”
Elon has made many employees rich. If they unionize, they jeopardize the benefits that made them rich. I can’t see the company agreeing to be as generous when dealing with a union.
God damn the brain rot on conservatives these days. I seriously didn’t think any intelligent adult would be anti-union, but I guess that could still be true.
Unions aren’t for everyone, and that’s an important principle that protects the negotiating power of unions.
Unions are weakened if you allow management and professionals to unionize or participate in collective bargaining. Unions should only be for unskilled, low-barrier-to-entry labor sectors. Are Tesla factory workers low-skill? I don’t know enough about how their factories work to say, but the fact that they’re awarding equity to line workers suggests that they don’t see it that way.
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I have to ponder why he thinks everyone should be pro-union
Simple. They want your negotiating power for themselves.
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Grow a fucking personality outside of spamming this for fuck sake
We reserve the right to make our own judgements.
Yes I know you do, and it’s very clear what side of the scales your thumb is on.
Well yeah, it’s not exactly hidden. I put it in the community name even. I’m honestly confused, did you think I was pretending to be a lefty or something?
I responded to you elsewhere, I think that makes it clear what my issue is. I hope it helps.
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stop being a smart arse
Oh boy the lack of self awareness is astounding
Hows the view from the peanut gallery buddy?
No,…no,…unions are Marxist. Employers have the right to fire anyone who tried to unionize. Unions need to be outlawed.
On the other size, employers need to show a lot more hospitality and generosity to the people that made the company successful. There’s a balance of don’t push an employee for every minute of work on the clock, but also if an employee can not maintain integrity of work required, or simply oesn’t feel like working at the moment during their shift, the company needs to be free to fire them.
Employees must stop demanding so much because they don’t pay for all the blot of expenses a company must pay out before starting on salaries, and empoyers must do more to help employees develop more skills for higher levels of success since successful employees who are well supported will only expand the company further.
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Employers have the right to fire anyone who tried to unionize
No they don’t, not since 1935. This is easy information to not get wrong.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2023/10/23/union-deterrence-and-recent-nlrb-action/
https://www.nlrb.gov/guidance/key-reference-materials/national-labor-relations-act
Just because the government infringes on a right it doesn’t mean it isn’t a right.
Just because you call something a right doesn’t make it a right either. It’s a legal protection so either agitate against it or stop fucking whining.
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Good to know you don’t consider free association to be a right.
It’s not about what I consider, it’s about what you want to posture about versus what you actually do. Stop your goddamn whining, if you have a problem, do something about it. Don’t complain to me, I’m not your mom.
I bet you won’t. Talk is easy, and repealing 100 year old laws that every sane person agrees with is hard, and I doubt you have either the gumption or the intelligence to even begin to try :D
Fucking prove me wrong.
I’m not whining. Funny, coming from the guy who thew a tantrum over having to follow the rules.
Unions need to be outlawed.
Management collectively bargains; why shouldn’t labor be able to?
Something should countervail the power of the corporate organization; that’s a labor union.
https://www.epi.org/publication/briefingpapers_bp143/
https://economics.ubc.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2021/07/Union-spillovers-GSS.pdf
Here’s some reading for ya on why unions are beneficial for every sector (including nonunion).
