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Whenever I see stupid shit like JW refusing blood, i’m reminded of the parable of the man in the flood, who keeps getting rescuers coming to him time and time again, only to refuse it all with the declaration that god would save them… and then they finally die in the flood, and they angerly accost got about why god didnt save him, and god is all like “Fuck you, You fucking idiot. You refused every rescue that came your way. This is your fault for being stupid”
I’ve seen it in the form of a comic or a short story and God literally said “who do you think sent the rescuers” which if you believe in God is kinda how it’s supposed to work I believe, rather than God straight up lifting you out if the water
Aaahhh, so god visited somebody to give this great news? We love in the times where there are cameras everywhere, so where is the video of this momentous event?
All religions are a form of mental illness. Religion is the greatest threat facing humanity BY FAR.
Because even after our little temporary oil-powered blip of 8 billion people lobbing planes full of bombs at each other collapses, we’ll still keep inventing gods to disagree over.
It definitely is not the political system of capitalism. Trump is such a devout Christian.
The faith people have in capitalism is the same as their faith in their religion. Trump is the leader to his own religion.
As explained, the economics don’t matter. We seem wired to invent nonsense and hack each other to pieces because of myths.
This is your brain on Reddit Atheism
Historical fact. Religion is a mental illness. The end.
This is your brain on Reddit Atheism
I’m not even a Christian and this is a genuinely rubbish take, go and look up William Wilberforce for example.
Edit: I feel that I really have to stress what I thought was obvious, the notion that every human being from behavioural modernity to the Enlightenment was mentally ill is so foolish on the face of it that it isn’t worth even entertaining even for the sake of argument.
Yes, they were. I am mentally ill too, I am depressed, I am anxious, we all have some degree of what one generation ago was a mental illness and now isn’t.
Mental illness doesn’t mean dysfunctional or crazy, but if you have a heart surgeon that’s also a Flat Earther, what do you call that?
My great aunt was a JW. She lived a fairly long life but it could have been longer. she refused care at the end because of her beliefs. Unreal the control that religions have over people in the guise of morality and an afterlife. So stupid.
Is this a major version bump? Like are we on 3.0 now?
Which high up in their church needed a transfusion?
Oh, don’t be so cynical. Maybe one of their elders bought a blood bank.
Yeah, but then they would come up with some internal blessing requirement for donated blood to ensure it stays in network.
An old JW boss of mine almost lost his wife during the birth of his first child when she was badly haemorrhaging at home.
I tried asking him about it (a few years after the event) and he was obviously defensive, but the gist was that they wouldn’t have taken a transfusion, and that he would have accepted losing her.
I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.
Absolute madness
Controlling men like that need to have a life changing surgery of their own before they harm more women like that.
I prescribe a sharp metal pick and a hammer personally.
I think you missed the point of this. I believe it was her influence more than his, based on other factors I’m aware of.
Unless you’re referring to the writers of the church doctrine as the controlling men.
I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.
I missed the point as well, I took this to mean, “he wanted her to give birth without a transfusion, but I’m not convinced [it would’ve actually happened] - I think the decision [to have a transfusion or not] was more dictated by her [and she would’ve got one]”
The controlling men in this scenario are the 8 bastards in Brooklyn known as The Governing Body who make up these rules and dictate whether a person will lose their entire family and or social/support network for failing to obey them.
Worse than the old white Mormon bastards.
I think the decision was more dictated by her than him
I think the point is that he was never part of the decision.
You’re correct
Imagine you just watched your child die because they needed a blood transfusion a week ago but it was against your religion.
This is like the story of Onan. His brother died so it was his job to marry his brother’s wife and give her a son. But he didn’t want to so he “spilled his seed.” So God killed him for failing to do his duty and provide her a son.
But later when God gave his laws for people to follow, the punishment was not death, it was to take him in front of the town elders and “remove a sandal from his foot and spit in his face.” Like c’mon. What are we even doing here, folks?
You do realize that the punishment of “remove a sandal from his foot and spit in his face” is close to the modern equivalent of receiving a felony on your legal record then having grandma kick you in the balls. Not death but not far off unless you wanted to fully exile yourself and could drop a man from middle/upper class to just above a slave in an instant.
Sounds like God has a foot fetish and a humiliation kink.
Despite the adjustment, the organisation was firm that its longstanding prohibition on whole-blood transfusions has not changed. It anchored the continued ban on its reading of biblical instructions to “abstain from blood,” signalling that the shift applies only to the four major components, not to transfusions in their entirety.
People died because of this and now they just go “we looked at the rules again and we think they actually mean something else”. What the fuck is this? The Supreme Court?
and “abstain from blood” in biblical times for sure meant “transfusions” too *head -> desk"
You forget that God knows all and can see future technology. We’re still waiting for the passage “Thou shalt not step into thy transporter, for it causeth loss of thy soul” to become relevant.
I thought it was weird it even had passages about NVidia’s DLSS5, but now we know.
While I despise organized religion, this is a good thing. It’ll save lives.
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/jehovahs-witnesses-just-gutted-their
Correction: this will end about 70 years of people senselessly ending their own lives for their religion. Nobody is being “saved” in this situation.
Indeed. This changes nothing about how idiotic their beliefs are, but saving lives = good, generally speaking.
It’s important to stay healthy before the battle royale to be one of the raptured ones… The ones that go to heaven. I learned yesterday that only like 100,000 people get to go but yehoos are like 9 million. So do the math. Gotta get that popcorn ready if it happens tomorrow. Hey, if it happens, I’m staying on the sidelines… Hey my dude, I’m not one! But I know that guy over there is! And look he’s flying! Well if you look from down-here in the general direction, he kinda looks like he’s about to fly.
Christianity also updates its Ts&Cs on occasion, like in 2007 when Pope John Paul II had a document commisioned, the publication of which was also authorised by Pope Benedict XVI, that basically said unbaptised children now go to heaven instead of limbo.
The Mormon church ‘conveniently’ decided to change their rhetoric about non-white people being marked by god because of past sin, right around the time of the Civil Rights Movement.
They were also firmly disproven by DNA evidence in their claim that native Americans descended from Israelites. Oops.
That was a good retcon though
Happy to see this. I never like operating on JW patients because of the blood rule.
Next up in the news, “Jehovah’s Witnesses are going door to door asking for the blood of the innocent.”
ain’t gods neoprouns He/Him? (apparently different from he/him)
