• Commander_Data [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            And you’re pushing CIA supplied crisis actors in Iran of all places. I’m a trot, I’m an anarcho-bidenist, I’m a chauvinist, but at least I’m not on some Alex Jones level conspiracy bullshit.

        • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I’m usually those users lol, but Iran’s protests just seem like the result of a conservative society with unaccountable cops, rather than the color revolution some are calling it

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            Yeah, the young woman who died was Kurdish, the protests started in Kurdistan, and the Kurds will happily revolt against the Ayatollah without any help from the CIA. Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.

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              any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people

              Why aren’t you considering the lived experience of Miami Cubans and the Falun Gong? It’s pretty dismissive to the agency of oppressed people. You privileged white leftists should stop talking over POC :fedposting:

            • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              True there’s a tendency to oversimplify overseas domestic conflict, and also that exact line, about the denying the agency of chosen dissenters has been specifically weaponized to give cover for regime change ops, most recently, to my recollection, in Bolivia and Cuba. You’re still correct imo in this case

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                How are they correct in a case that’s literally made up? Video evidence shows she collapses due to a medical reason and there was no evidence of police brutality.

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      They are allied with China and Russia currently already, or rather on extremely friendly and military-cooperative terms. America’s worst fear of all their victims combining into a solid bloc against them instead of separate, isolated nations is coming to pass already. America bungled it massively by attacking China and Russia at the same time with hybrid war, while also destroying the Iran deal. They should have picked one or two of them to destroy at a time while cozying up to the others, but it seems the imperialist ideologues at the wheel have no restraint

        • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Err, kinda. Iran is still as aligned against America and with its rivals as if it were a socialist nation. But while the US decided at some point that they value Iran more as an MIC-justifying bogeyman than a friend (them ripping up the Iran Deal), it’s coming back to bite them in the ass with the rise of the opposing pole.

          Then again, maybe we’re ascribing too much rational thought to the American ruling class, since it’s apparent that even they don’t know what the fuck they want.

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              The US actually wants strong enemies opposing it. That’s why is you are anti-US, you should also oppose the American’s enemies. American imperialism will end once it rules the Earth completely unopposed with no strong enemies.

              :very-intelligent:

              Can’t wait to hear the next mental gymnastics westerners come up with to avoid their revolutionary defeatist duty

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              The US wanted to prevent the spread of socialism because it threatened the interests of the American ruling class. Now, they pushed Iran towards the opposing pole with China at the helm, a socialist country to boot.

              So yeah, it succeeded at justifying militarism and destabilizing the Middle East, but not liquidating Iran as a threat.